I know, ...:)), but apart from the security, and the network access if allowed, it's the same, ie, allocated ip address, same problem as original. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:16 PM To: Isa List Subject: [isalist] RE: Howto make ISA server a VPN client http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Steve, Most dial up connections to ISPs aren't secure, and they don't use VPN, since a dial up connection is a point to point connection, not virtual. HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:55 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Howto make ISA server a VPN client http://www.ISAserver.org Come to think about it, is that not what a dial up connection is anyway??? Steve -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:51 PM To: Isa List Subject: [isalist] RE: Howto make ISA server a VPN client http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Mark, Your ISP will allow you to create a VPN link just to download mail? Wow! Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 <http://tinyurl.com/1jq1> Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp <http://tinyurl.com/1llp> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hippenstiel [mailto:m.hippenstiel@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:m.hippenstiel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:36 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Howto make ISA server a VPN client Hi folks, I am currently evaluating a scenario in which an Exchange Server behind ISA connects to the ISP's mail server via VPN, thus elimiating the need for a static IP address. Now I'm facing some problems of understanding which you can hopefully help me get rid of. - Do I have to make ISA or the Exchange Server the VPN client? - ISA does not support L2TP-tunneling, does it? I would rather not use PPTP, as does the provider - So, do I have to set up a static route to the ISP mail server on the ISA machine? With RAS? (btw I already tried that but the route seems to work only on ISA itself? - of course it didn't work but I wanted to see what happens :-) - Can this route point to an interface that I created with the VPN wizard of RAS? - Or is this configuration completely impossible? - And finally if it *is* possible, what kind of packet filters to I have to set within ISA? Can I use Tom's article on ISA to RAS connections as a guideline or is there some substantial difference between a gateway-to-gateway configuration and my idea of ISA being a "client" for that matter? As always, thanks for listening! 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