Hi Mark, The ISA firewall can't determine that path after the tunnel is created. So, if you don't allow access to the entire server (which means NOT entering a path), then the request will be denied. Even though /* putatively means everything on the server, the ISA firewall doesn't interpret this way after the SSL tunnel is established. HTH, Tom -----Original Message----- From: Mark Hippenstiel [mailto:M.Hippenstiel@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:20 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites http://www.ISAserver.org Jim could you elaborate a bit on the /* problem? Thanks. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Hippenstiel > Posted At: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:27 AM Posted To: > www.isaserver.org > Conversation: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Roentgen eyes ;) > > But no, I was just explaining what Tom had said. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Posted At: Tuesday, > > December 02, 2003 8:09 AM Posted To: www.isaserver.org > > Conversation: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Did I miss the ISAInfo on this one? > > Where did you (Mark) see the /* in the path? > > > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison > > http://isatools.org > > > > Read the help, books and articles! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Robertson" <robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 21:38 > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Kerplunk!!! > > <sheepish grin as I haul myself back into my chair> > > > > Thanks Mark, that was exactly it. My "limited" destination sets all > > had the "/*" subpath included as I naively thought that this would > > ensure that ALL the possible paths on that domain would then be > > allowed. > > Silly me!!! Looks > > like it decided to actually restrict as opposed to allow all paths. > > > > Would this imply that all destination sets that I use should NOT use > > the "/*" option in the subpath? It doesn't make sense to me but hey, > > I'm still learning... :) > > > > Cheers > > William R. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Hippenstiel [mailto:M.Hippenstiel@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: 02 December 2003 02:41 AM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Just dropping in... I think Tom meant that the s&c rule should not > > contain any specifics, just the plain target domain name, > "not even a > > /*" to cite him here. That would mean "full access" to the site > > defined in the rule. > > > > Mark > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: William Robertson [mailto:robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Posted At: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:43 PM Posted To: > > > www.isaserver.org > > > Conversation: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > OK, I hear you. But if I tell you that the only > difference between 2 > > > usernames is that the one has an S&C rule with a limited > > > destination set (which includes the www.<domainname>.co.za that I > > > am trying to access), and the other has an S&C rule with an "Any > > > Site" S&C Rule, then I'd would like to hear your thoughts on this. > > > > > > Tom's comment about users requiring "Full access" to the SSL > > > server confuses me, as the only Full Access that I can think of is > > > to give these users an "Any Site" S&C Rule as that is the only > > > difference between these users... > > > but this doesn't make sense to me. > > > > > > As you rightly pointed out, 12209 indicates that there was a Proxy > > > Auth failure, which is maybe what Tom was talking about regarding > > > the Full Access for SSL, but I'm damned if I know where to > > > investigate this > > further... > > > > > > If you have any pearls of wisdom I will gladly accept them :) > > > > > > Cheers > > > William R. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: 01 December 2003 16:01 PM > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Hi William, > > > > > > I haven't followed the thread as Tom was handling your issue. > > > If I can take you back in time, those log entries are pretty clear > > > to me: > > > > > > (first entry): the sc-result code is 10054. This is a Winsock > > > response meaning the connection, although initially accepted > > > (listener responded), the connection was dropped (reset) > > > afterwards. Since this appears to be an SSL connection > > > (SSL-tunnel), there may have been a problem > > in the SSL > > > handshake. > > > > > > (second entry): the sc-result code is 12209. This is a proxy auth > > > failure. > > > Since there was no allowed traffic, there is no rule to quote. > > > > > > Jim Harrison > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > > http://isatools.org > > > Read the help / books / articles! > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:05:36 +0200 > > > "William Robertson" <robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Jim, it looks like Tom is probably getting some well deserved rest > > > as I haven't seen a post from him for a few days now. Would you > > > perhaps have any insight for me into the matter Tom highlighted > > > with regards my SSL issue? > > > See below for more info... > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: William Robertson [mailto:robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: 26 November 2003 08:00 AM > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Hi Tom > > > > > > When you say users require "Full Access" to the SSL Server, how > > > would you propose I implement this? I can think of no other way to > > > do this other than giving these users access to a S&C rule that > > > allows ALL destinations... and this doesn't make sense to me...? > > > > > > Your thoughts? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: 26 November 2003 00:45 AM > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > > Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Hi William, > > > > > > Users must have full access to the server to which they > > create an SSL > > > connection because they cannot evaluate the path. If you have a > > > path in the rule allowing them access, then the connection request > > fails. Even > > > the dreaded /* can create this problem. > > > > > > HTH, > > > Tom > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: William Robertson [mailto:robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:06 AM > > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > > Subject: [isalist] Cannot access SSL sites > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > Hi there > > > > > > I have some users who are "not allowed" to access the > Internet. But > > > being the nice guy I am I managed to get management to approve the > > > "opening" of certain sites, such as the medical aid and > > pension scheme > > > websites. So to do this I created an S&C rule to allow > the necessary > > > destination sets for all Domain Users. The trick with this > > is that the > > > Medical Aid website works just fine, but the Pension website > > > doesn't. I have now managed to figure out that the problem is > > > related > > to the fact > > > that the Pension website is an HTTPS secure site. In > fact, any HTTPS > > > site that I "open", the users keep getting prompted for their > > > credentials, but any other HTTP website works just fine. > > > > > > Here are the excerpts from the WEB log (I've removed all the > > > unnecessary > > > info): > > > Medical Aid > > > <clientIP>, WillTest, Mozilla/4.0 etc etc, 11/25/2003, 15:35:57, > > > w3proxy, <FIREWALL>, -, www.sovhealth.co.za, > > 196.37.176.210, 80, 2953, > > > 455, 0, http, TCP, GET, > > > http://www.sovhealth.co.za/web/images/background.gif, > > image/gif, Inet, > > > 10054, 0x801002, pWEB Protocols, scWEB - Free Sites > > > > > > Pension Scheme > > > <clientIP>, WillTest, Mozilla/4.0 etc etc, 11/25/2003, 15:35:58, > > > w3proxy, <FIREWALL>, -, www.mebmac.co.za, -, 443, 0, 0, 0, > > SSL-tunnel, > > > TCP, -, www.mebmac.co.za:443, -, Inet, 12209, 0x0, pWEB > Protocols, - > > > > > > As you can see, the Pension website doesn't find a matching Rule 2 > > > (Site & Content Rule), and this I cannot understand. 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