Hmmm... Added the DWORD value you suggested, and restarted the services, even restarted the server for good measure, but when a "limited access" user tries to access a website he is not allowed to, he is still prompted for the Firewall credentials. I can't say that this in itself is a big issue for me. Frankly I kinda like this because it means that if I am at a client workstation, I don't need to logoff and logon with my username in order to access the internet. Anyway, for what it's worth, I do have the "Ask unauthenticated users for identification" option deselected in the Outgoing WEB Requests tab. I deselected it the other day on recommendation from Tom in that it was very likely an unnecessary option as I do not have any "Any-Any" rules. Does the above option have any bearing on the current issue? Should I remove the Registry change or is it a good practice to have it enabled? Cheers William R. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 01 December 2003 20:28 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites http://www.ISAserver.org Yes; add "ReturnDeniedIfAuthenticated", DWORD = 1 to HLKM\System\CurrentControlSet\w3svc\Parameters and restart the web proxy service. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:55:55 +0200 "William Robertson" <robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Jim My users get prompted for credentials if they try to access a site that is not in their specific Destination Set. Do you believe that this has bearing on why they cannot access the SSL sites? Cheers William R. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 01 December 2003 19:20 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites http://www.ISAserver.org Here's another question: If a user tries to go to a disallowed site, do they get reprompted or simply denied? Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:43:27 +0200 "William Robertson" <robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org OK, I hear you. But if I tell you that the only difference between 2 usernames is that the one has an S&C rule with a limited destination set (which includes the www.<domainname>.co.za that I am trying to access), and the other has an S&C rule with an "Any Site" S&C Rule, then I'd would like to hear your thoughts on this. Tom's comment about users requiring "Full access" to the SSL server confuses me, as the only Full Access that I can think of is to give these users an "Any Site" S&C Rule as that is the only difference between these users... but this doesn't make sense to me. As you rightly pointed out, 12209 indicates that there was a Proxy Auth failure, which is maybe what Tom was talking about regarding the Full Access for SSL, but I'm damned if I know where to investigate this further... If you have any pearls of wisdom I will gladly accept them :) Cheers William R. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 01 December 2003 16:01 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites http://www.ISAserver.org Hi William, I haven't followed the thread as Tom was handling your issue. If I can take you back in time, those log entries are pretty clear to me: (first entry): the sc-result code is 10054. This is a Winsock response meaning the connection, although initially accepted (listener responded), the connection was dropped (reset) afterwards. Since this appears to be an SSL connection (SSL-tunnel), there may have been a problem in the SSL handshake. (second entry): the sc-result code is 12209. This is a proxy auth failure. Since there was no allowed traffic, there is no rule to quote. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org Read the help / books / articles! On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:05:36 +0200 "William Robertson" <robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: http://www.ISAserver.org Jim, it looks like Tom is probably getting some well deserved rest as I haven't seen a post from him for a few days now. Would you perhaps have any insight for me into the matter Tom highlighted with regards my SSL issue? See below for more info... -----Original Message----- From: William Robertson [mailto:robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 26 November 2003 08:00 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites http://www.ISAserver.org Hi Tom When you say users require "Full Access" to the SSL Server, how would you propose I implement this? I can think of no other way to do this other than giving these users access to a S&C rule that allows ALL destinations... and this doesn't make sense to me...? Your thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 26 November 2003 00:45 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Cannot access SSL sites http://www.ISAserver.org Hi William, Users must have full access to the server to which they create an SSL connection because they cannot evaluate the path. If you have a path in the rule allowing them access, then the connection request fails. Even the dreaded /* can create this problem. HTH, Tom -----Original Message----- From: William Robertson [mailto:robertson.william@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:06 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Cannot access SSL sites http://www.ISAserver.org Hi there I have some users who are "not allowed" to access the Internet. But being the nice guy I am I managed to get management to approve the "opening" of certain sites, such as the medical aid and pension scheme websites. So to do this I created an S&C rule to allow the necessary destination sets for all Domain Users. The trick with this is that the Medical Aid website works just fine, but the Pension website doesn't. I have now managed to figure out that the problem is related to the fact that the Pension website is an HTTPS secure site. In fact, any HTTPS site that I "open", the users keep getting prompted for their credentials, but any other HTTP website works just fine. Here are the excerpts from the WEB log (I've removed all the unnecessary info): Medical Aid <clientIP>, WillTest, Mozilla/4.0 etc etc, 11/25/2003, 15:35:57, w3proxy, <FIREWALL>, -, www.sovhealth.co.za, 196.37.176.210, 80, 2953, 455, 0, http, TCP, GET, http://www.sovhealth.co.za/web/images/background.gif, image/gif, Inet, 10054, 0x801002, pWEB Protocols, scWEB - Free Sites Pension Scheme <clientIP>, WillTest, Mozilla/4.0 etc etc, 11/25/2003, 15:35:58, w3proxy, <FIREWALL>, -, www.mebmac.co.za, -, 443, 0, 0, 0, SSL-tunnel, TCP, -, www.mebmac.co.za:443, -, Inet, 12209, 0x0, pWEB Protocols, - As you can see, the Pension website doesn't find a matching Rule 2 (Site & Content Rule), and this I cannot understand. Is it possible to declare HTTP and HTTPS website distinctions in the Destination Sets? 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