Hi Martin! you see for me, because of the context it is, the fact that it is shops the word Handicapped used here with their shops doesn't offend me. but generally, I do agree that rights based charity ideas are the only way to go. sorry if that was confusing! hope you know what I meant! Sabrina -----Original Message----- From: irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of martin_osullivan@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 07 July 2006 11:20 To: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [IrelandVIPNews] Re: Wording on notices Hi I think that we have to move away from the charity model, and then these kinds of words will become less relevant. >----Original Message---- >From: sabmckiernan@xxxxxxxxxx >Date: Jul 7, 2006 11:01 >To: <irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subj: [IrelandVIPNews] Re: Wording on notices > >Hi, > >I am sure you all know this but, >It is a charity, so by them using the word Handicapped it is, keeping up the >message of cap in hand. it is keeping up the charity model. after all, Mrs. >quinns shops are charity shops for the national council for the blind. > >you would use Disability rather than Handicapped? >well we are not disabled because we are blind! >you see, handicapped doesn't say to me slow, retarded or anything like that! >Handicapped totally is using the charity model in my view. also, I know in >the states you still see the term visually handicapped used. > >well just my opinion. > >Sabrina >-----Original Message----- >From: irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Maria >Sent: 06 July 2006 19:06 >To: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [IrelandVIPNews] Re: Wording on notices > > > In my opinion disability sounds better than a handicap, but that's once >again my personal opinion. > >The alternative terms to a term handicap in our case might be words such as >blindness or vision impairment. What do the rest of you think? > > > >IrelandVIPNews Mailing list >You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: >To send a message to the list email: > irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: > irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. >To contact the list moderators Email: > irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 > > > >IrelandVIPNews Mailing list >You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: >To send a message to the list email: > irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: > irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. >To contact the list moderators Email: > irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > I'm using Vodafone Mail - to get your free mobile email account go to http://www.vodafone.ie Use of Vodafone Mail is subject to Terms and Conditions http://www.vodafone.ie/terms/website IrelandVIPNews Mailing list You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: To send a message to the list email: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. To contact the list moderators Email: irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 IrelandVIPNews Mailing list You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: To send a message to the list email: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. To contact the list moderators Email: irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx