very true Tim. was coming from the medical view RE being blind doesn't disable! Sabrina -----Original Message----- From: irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tim Culhane Sent: 07 July 2006 11:31 To: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [IrelandVIPNews] Re: Wording on notices Hi, This is certainly an interesting topic! Personally I think that different people feel differently about the word handicapped. The word itself has gotten a bad press in the last few years, and it has picked up a lot of unpleasant connotations. However, whatever way you look at it, being blind or partially sighted is a handicap to doing a lot of things i.e. Reading print, driving a car, navigating an unfamiliar area etc etc. In that way blindness is a disability as well. Of course, society can make blindness an even bigger handicap or disability by not making certain things accessible. However, there are some things we will never be able to do. You can split all the hairs you like about it, but blind people are handicapped (in the nicest sense of the word)! Tim -----Original Message----- From: irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sabrina McKiernan Sent: 07 July 2006 11:02 To: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [IrelandVIPNews] Re: Wording on notices Hi, I am sure you all know this but, It is a charity, so by them using the word Handicapped it is, keeping up the message of cap in hand. it is keeping up the charity model. after all, Mrs. quinns shops are charity shops for the national council for the blind. you would use Disability rather than Handicapped? well we are not disabled because we are blind! you see, handicapped doesn't say to me slow, retarded or anything like that! Handicapped totally is using the charity model in my view. also, I know in the states you still see the term visually handicapped used. well just my opinion. Sabrina -----Original Message----- From: irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irelandvipnews-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Maria Sent: 06 July 2006 19:06 To: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [IrelandVIPNews] Re: Wording on notices In my opinion disability sounds better than a handicap, but that's once again my personal opinion. The alternative terms to a term handicap in our case might be words such as blindness or vision impairment. What do the rest of you think? IrelandVIPNews Mailing list You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: To send a message to the list email: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. To contact the list moderators Email: irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 IrelandVIPNews Mailing list You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: To send a message to the list email: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. To contact the list moderators Email: irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx IrelandVIPNews Mailing list You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: To send a message to the list email: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. To contact the list moderators Email: irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.6/378 - Release Date: 28/06/06 IrelandVIPNews Mailing list You may want to keep a note of the following addresses: To send a message to the list email: irelandvipnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To change your options back to normal or unsubscribe Email: irelandvipnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word Echopost or unsubscribe in the Subject line. To contact the list moderators Email: irelandvipnews-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx