That "IC focus" to the distain of PWB folks seems to be prevalent in both the major "EDA" companies. And the real puzzler is that both have acquired the "minor" PWB players to corner the market, and yet don't cater to it. -----Original Message----- From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of george.h.patrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:58 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: User's Group Meeting I attended. It was good to meet some folks face-to-face, but I have some problems with content. It was great for IC folks, too much for one person to see, but as I am not an IC person that meant little to me. Content was very thin for PCB, but since Cadence considers IC Packaging, Simulation, and Front-end as "PCB" they probably think it was good. Even the keynote presentation that was supposed to address front-to-back issues stopped at IC package design. The proceedings are all on-line, which means you can't just sit somewhere and read them unless you have an internet connection. I personally would prefer a CD, but that is probably not going to happen. Suggestion for next year: More real PCB content. There are still a lot of us out there, Cadence takes us for granted. -- George Patrick Tektronix. ________________________________ From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Dave Seymour Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 6:49 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] User's Group Meeting Did anyone attend the User's Group in Sept.? How was it? The Forum seems quiet. Just curious, I live in a vacuum. Thx, dave -- Dave Seymour, CID+ Catapult Communications Inc. 800 Perimeter Park Dr, Suite A Morrisville, NC 27560 Direct: (919)653-4249 Main: (919)653-4180 Fax: (919)653-4297 Dave.seymour@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. Our list name is icu-pcb-forum or go to //www.freelists.org/archives/icu-pcb-forum/ Problems or Questions: Send an email to icu-pcb-forum-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Want to post a job listing ? DON'T DO IT HERE! Better yet, join our jobs listing forum. SUBSCRIBE: icu-jobs-forum-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxx POST: icu-jobs-forum@xxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------------