Gary I was aware of an 18 character limit, and have been keeping within this successfully. Still seems okay, with pse fired up either external or internal to allegro. Even with r11x44_mod This is on wintel, 15.2 with last weeks ISR. You had me going there... Best Regards David Greig ______________________________ GigaDyne Ltd Buchan House Carnegie Campus Dunfermline KY11 8PL United Kingdom t: +44 (0)1383 624 975 http://www.gigadyne.co.uk ______________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx] Sent: 22 December 2004 21:06 To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems Mitch, Shirley, I think I have defined the problem, now I just need a solution! It appears that I have an eight character limit in naming padstacks, but just since moving to 15.2. We have quite a few previously created padstacks that exceed eight characters in name length. Anyone have a clue as to how I can tell the "Pad_Designer" editor to allow more than eight characters? Thanks for the help! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Longmont, Colorado -> -----Original Message----- -> From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx] -> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:50 PM -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> Hey Mitch, -> -> We have used dashes and underscores in package as well as padstack -> names for years. Now all of a sudden it doesn't appear to like -> either the underscore or the dash. -> -> At first I copied/pasted a similar padstack file, renamed it, then -> tried to edit it. It wouldn't load with the "_mod", so I took off -> the "_mod", it would then load into the padstack editor. Then I did -> a "save as" and added the "_mod". Now, once again, I can't load it -> in with the "_mod" -> to modify -> it. All of this is taking place in an "unchecked" directory where we -> create and use the symbols/padstacks in a design. They are moved -> into the "golden" -> library directory only when tested in a populated functional PCB -> assembly. -> -> In this same "unchecked" directory, I can load a previously created -> padstack (i.e. "r15x70") without the "_mod" just fine. It doesn't -> make any sense to me. The only thing that has changed lately is I -> have moved from 15.1 to 15.2. -> -> Gary E. MacIndoe -> PCB Design Engineer -> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. -> Longmont, Colorado -> -> -> -> -> -> -----Original Message----- -> -> From: Mitch S. Morey [mailto:cadpro2k@xxxxxxxxxx] -> -> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:04 AM -> -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> -> -> Hi Gary, -> -> -> -> Our library has padstacks with spaces and dashes in the names -> and don't -> -> give us problems. -> -> -> -> Just thinking... -> -> -> -> 1) are you positive you've mod'd this one in the 'correct' -> library, and -> -> maybe not in a duplicate path that Allegro is NOT looking in? -> -> 2) When you say you've mod'd it from an existing, did you do -> that in the -> -> PADSTACK Editor? or did you simply copy it, and now the editor -> -> doesn't find it. In that case you need to restart the editor -> -> 3) can you call that new padstack (filename_mod.pad) up in the -> -> allegro symbol editor? -> -> 4) are you sure there's not a flash symbol associated with the new -> -> padstack that the editor doesn't find? -> -> -> -> Hope this helps. Good day. -> -> -> -> Mitch -> -> -> -> -> -> > Thanks Richard. This padstack is in the same directory with -> -> others that I -> -> > have no problem loading into the padstack editor (they -> don't have the -> -> > "_mod" -> -> > at the end). -> -> > -> -> > Gary E. MacIndoe -> -> > PCB Design Engineer -> -> > Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. -> -> > Longmont, Colorado -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -----Original Message----- -> -> > From: Weinberg, Richard (Richard) [mailto:rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx] -> -> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:17 AM -> -> > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> -> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > I've seen this before. I'm not sure but, check if there are -> -> any spaces -> -> > in -> -> > any of the directory names in the total path. -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > __________________________________________________ -> -> > -> -> > systems -> -> > -> -> > agere 76 Sandy Point Road -> -> > -> -> > -> Yarmouth, Maine -> -> > 04096 -> -> > -> -> > USA -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > Richard Weinberg Tel: 207 846 4539 -> -> > -> -> > Applications Engineer rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx -> -> > -> -> > ReferenceDesigns -> -> > -> -> > ___________________________________________________ -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -----Original Message----- -> -> > From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx] -> -> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:03 PM -> -> > To: Allegro Forum -> -> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Pad designer editor problems -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > Hey guys, -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > Anyone see this while trying to edit a padstack? I have a -> -> padstack that -> -> > I -> -> > modified from another one with "_mod" at the end (i.e. the -> padstack is -> -> > named -> -> > "r11x44_mod.pad"). Could it be the "_"? I tried replacing -> -> the "_" with a -> -> > "-", then taking it out altogether, same results. Only when I -> -> remove the -> -> > "mod", can I edit the padstack! I can edit ones without the -> -> "_mod" all I -> -> > want. -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > Thanks for any replies! -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > -> -> > Gary E. 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