Jelena, Well, it's a new year, my support guy is back, and problem solved! It turns out that the *.pad files were not a known file type (RMB on the file to Properties, Type of File is "unknown"). Not sure why double clicking on 8 character or less *.pad files would load it into Pad Designer, but not over 8 characters, doesn't makes sense. So setting it up in explorer (Tools -> Folder Options...) to open up all *.pad files with "pad_designer.exe" did the trick. Thanks to Mike Niyompong!! Gary E. MacIndoe PCB Design Engineer Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. Longmont, Colorado -> -----Original Message----- -> From: Jelena Larsen [mailto:jelenal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] -> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 2:08 PM -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> Hi Gary, -> -> Not sure if padstack editor needs a separate command. -> I only ran into the character length problem when reading in the netlist -> and my symbols would not be recognized because they were too long. -> I look forward to reading about the solution. Good luck. -> -> Jelena -> -> -> -> -----Original Message----- -> From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx] -> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:46 PM -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> Hi Jelena, -> -> I tried adding the "set..." line to my env file, without results. I -> wonder -> if there is an equivalent "set" command for the padstack editor? -> -> Thanks for your time! -> -> Gary E. MacIndoe -> PCB Design Engineer -> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. -> Longmont, Colorado -> -> -> -> -> -> -----Original Message----- -> -> From: Jelena Larsen [mailto:jelenal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] -> -> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:32 PM -> -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> -> -> Gary, -> -> -> -> The have the following in my EVV file to increase the character -> length. -> -> I assume this works for the padstack length as well. -> -> -> -> set ALLEGRO_LONG_PACKAGE_NAME = 256 -> -> -> -> Jelena Larsen -> -> -> -> -> -> -----Original Message----- -> -> From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx] -> -> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:06 PM -> -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> -> -> Mitch, Shirley, -> -> -> -> I think I have defined the problem, now I just need a solution! -> -> -> -> It appears that I have an eight character limit in naming padstacks, -> but -> -> just since moving to 15.2. We have quite a few previously created -> -> padstacks -> -> that exceed eight characters in name length. -> -> -> -> Anyone have a clue as to how I can tell the "Pad_Designer" editor to -> -> allow -> -> more than eight characters? -> -> -> -> Thanks for the help! -> -> -> -> Gary E. MacIndoe -> -> PCB Design Engineer -> -> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. -> -> Longmont, Colorado -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -----Original Message----- -> -> -> From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx] -> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:50 PM -> -> -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> -> -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Hey Mitch, -> -> -> -> -> -> We have used dashes and underscores in package as well as -> -> -> padstack names for -> -> -> years. Now all of a sudden it doesn't appear to like either the -> -> -> underscore -> -> -> or the dash. -> -> -> -> -> -> At first I copied/pasted a similar padstack file, renamed it, -> -> -> then tried to -> -> -> edit it. It wouldn't load with the "_mod", so I took off the -> "_mod", -> -> it -> -> -> would then load into the padstack editor. Then I did a "save -> -> -> as" and added -> -> -> the "_mod". Now, once again, I can't load it in with the "_mod" -> -> -> to modify -> -> -> it. All of this is taking place in an "unchecked" directory -> -> -> where we create -> -> -> and use the symbols/padstacks in a design. They are moved into -> -> -> the "golden" -> -> -> library directory only when tested in a populated functional PCB -> -> -> assembly. -> -> -> -> -> -> In this same "unchecked" directory, I can load a previously -> -> -> created padstack -> -> -> (i.e. "r15x70") without the "_mod" just fine. It doesn't make -> -> -> any sense to -> -> -> me. The only thing that has changed lately is I have moved from -> 15.1 -> -> to -> -> -> 15.2. -> -> -> -> -> -> Gary E. MacIndoe -> -> -> PCB Design Engineer -> -> -> Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. -> -> -> Longmont, Colorado -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -----Original Message----- -> -> -> -> From: Mitch S. Morey [mailto:cadpro2k@xxxxxxxxxx] -> -> -> -> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:04 AM -> -> -> -> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> -> -> -> Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Hi Gary, -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Our library has padstacks with spaces and dashes in the names -> -> -> and don't -> -> -> -> give us problems. -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Just thinking... -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> 1) are you positive you've mod'd this one in the 'correct' -> -> -> library, and -> -> -> -> maybe not in a duplicate path that Allegro is NOT looking in? -> -> -> -> 2) When you say you've mod'd it from an existing, did you do -> -> -> that in the -> -> -> -> PADSTACK Editor? or did you simply copy it, and now the editor -> -> doesn't -> -> -> -> find it. In that case you need to restart the editor -> -> -> -> 3) can you call that new padstack (filename_mod.pad) up in the -> -> allegro -> -> -> -> symbol editor? -> -> -> -> 4) are you sure there's not a flash symbol associated with the -> new -> -> -> -> padstack that the editor doesn't find? -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Hope this helps. Good day. -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> Mitch -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> -> > Thanks Richard. This padstack is in the same directory with -> -> -> -> others that I -> -> -> -> > have no problem loading into the padstack editor (they -> -> -> don't have the -> -> -> -> > "_mod" -> -> -> -> > at the end). -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > Gary E. MacIndoe -> -> -> -> > PCB Design Engineer -> -> -> -> > Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. -> -> -> -> > Longmont, Colorado -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -----Original Message----- -> -> -> -> > From: Weinberg, Richard (Richard) -> [mailto:rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx] -> -> -> -> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:17 AM -> -> -> -> > To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -> -> -> -> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > I've seen this before. I'm not sure but, check if there are -> -> -> -> any spaces -> -> -> -> > in -> -> -> -> > any of the directory names in the total path. -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > __________________________________________________ -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > systems -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > agere 76 Sandy Point Road -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> Yarmouth, Maine -> -> -> -> > 04096 -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > USA -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > Richard Weinberg Tel: 207 846 4539 -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > Applications Engineer rweinberg@xxxxxxxxx -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > ReferenceDesigns -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > ___________________________________________________ -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -----Original Message----- -> -> -> -> > From: Gary MacIndoe [mailto:gary.macindoe@xxxxxxx] -> -> -> -> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:03 PM -> -> -> -> > To: Allegro Forum -> -> -> -> > Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Pad designer editor problems -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > Hey guys, -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > Anyone see this while trying to edit a padstack? I have a -> -> -> -> padstack that -> -> -> -> > I -> -> -> -> > modified from another one with "_mod" at the end (i.e. the -> -> -> padstack is -> -> -> -> > named -> -> -> -> > "r11x44_mod.pad"). Could it be the "_"? I tried replacing -> -> -> -> the "_" with a -> -> -> -> > "-", then taking it out altogether, same results. Only when -> I -> -> -> -> remove the -> -> -> -> > "mod", can I edit the padstack! I can edit ones without the -> -> -> -> "_mod" all I -> -> -> -> > want. -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > Thanks for any replies! -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > -> -> -> -> > Gary E. 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