[ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
- From: michael Tholl <mrtholl@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:57:12 -0400
I had to watch the talking pig. I wasn't given a choice, but if it
makes you feel better, I appreciate the consumption of all talking
pigs, particularly their ribs, or any cured and smoked or encased pig.
Bacon rules!
As for a charging sheep, yeah, it sounds laughable, but I think if I
were being charged by a ram, I'd rather move, I suspect those horns,
and the large boney head they're attached to would feel much like a
run-away boulder.
Still, I see the point. Baaaah! is not a scary or troublesome sound to
deal with, unless of course, you're trying to raise a spear while
laughing. grins
I wouldn't classify boars in the same category as regular pigs.
they're quite nasty creatures in terms of temprament, and when they're
angry, their squeal or scream or whatever you want to call that
doesn't sound cuddly at all. lol
Bears would sound the best, I suspect, but I still can't imagine how a
dwarf is going to climb onto a bear.
Okay Gentle Ben, please lie down, and also, would it kill you to lose
the winter blubber? My legs aren't that bloody long! Aargh, you large
wooly beast, I said lay... Hey! Stop eating my head!
Regardless of what you do, I'm sure it'll work out just fine. smiles
On 10/9/13, Cathrine Røksland <croksland@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Have a look at this link. Plesase tell me if you need more information!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yak
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan Thompson ssss
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 6:05 PM
> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
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> Hi Cathrine,
> I am glad you and others enjoy them. It makes doing all this work worth
> while, so thank you for that! Even so, if not for Ian's programming skills
> and him making Tactical Battles, everything I, and other map makers, do
> would be useless. Ian made it easy and I really appreciate his own hard
> work
> to make all of us get so much enjoyment out of all these different map
> packs!
>
> As for the yak, I had to look it up in a dictionary, which really didn't
> help me much, lol. I am not really familiar with what that is. I am
> assumeing it is some kind of cow or camel?
> Thanks,
> Al
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cathrine
> Røksland
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:27 AM
> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
>
> Your most welcome! I thought of another animal aswell that dwarves could
> use
> as their mount! What do you think about yak's?
> I forgot to say that I love your map packs Allan! Please keep up the good
> work!
>
> Cathrine
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:52 PM
> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
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> A bull cavalry would be really awesome! I amnot sure if bulls hang out in
> or around mountains though. They seem to be more of a plains type critter.
> I could see centaurs having a bull cavalry maybe riden by satyrs or
> something equally greek. Their charge would be tremendous! Thanks for that
> idea!
>
> al
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cathrine
> Røksland
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:04 AM
> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
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> Hi!
> How about dwarves riding bulls?
>
> Cathrine
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James English
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:49 AM
> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
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> Rams are male sheep.
>
> I'm very sorry, but if I saw gallopping sheep coming towards me, I would
> not
> be very scared.
>
> How about having the dwarves drive crude tank-like constructions, as
> they're
> masters of metal?
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> On 10/9/13, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> LOL,
>> That you even watched babe the pig makes me shudder.
>> Oh vile heart that lurks in the breast of those that watch talking
>> pigs and quotes thus...MOO!
>>
>> As for rams. What do they sound like? I am trying to remember what
>> they even look like. Do they have the curly horns? I thought they
>> might be sheep at first. I don't know, see one horned bovine like
>> mammal, see them all.
>>
>> I guess the issue is, which part of the animal kingdom is rams? That's
>> right, I am looking for ramparts, grin.
>>
>> Talking about pigs, maybe a wild boar would be interesting? I don't
>> know, that still seems to open for amusement instead of serious
>> dwarfness.
> Sigh.
>>
>> I think I might just do the bears. I got sounds for bears and boars...
>> I know what you are talking about. Those bullettes or whatever they
>> are
>> called, if I remember my dungeons and dragons monster manual, were
>> some kind of large "land shark" or land whale that ate everything it
>> could find. The thing is, people will be scratching their heads about
>> what the heck a bullet is, lol. I mean I could say the dwarvs will
>> just use a remorhaz and then when that gets tired, find a local behir
>> rental agency...but that might not have the same effect as saying,
>> rode a panther and then hopped on a komodo dragon, grin.
>>
>> Did you hear about the goat that went to college? He always waited to
>> the last minute, so that he was always "ramming" for a test.
>> Yeah, that last one sucked. Just wipe that last one from your mind and
>> pretend it never happened.
>>
>> al
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of michael
>> Tholl
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 9:31 PM
>> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
>>
>> Hey Allan,
>> You can't just break out rams commercials and not toss in a pun. gasps
>> in horror.
>> Rams, built dwarf tough!
>> Okay, now I want rams! grumble stamp, grumble stamp!
>> Sorry, old white beard the brawling barkeep took over the keyboard for
>> a second.
>> Bears would sound kind of cool, I just wonder how many step ladders it
>> would take to get a dwarf mounted. grin Just think of the ram
>> possibilities.
>> charging rams, leaping rams,
>> deadly head butting rams, battering rams, breading rams, baking rams.
>> rack of ram. okay, this won't work so well. Still, that would be
>> pretty in line with the mountain animal thing.
>> I suppose they could ride bulletts.. however that's spelled.
>> Though I don't know if those things are trainable since they're some
>> sort of shelled lizard thing if I remember right..
>> As for goats.. Everyone hates the goats. poor goats, they're the joke
>> of the horned and hooved family of the animal kingdom. Well, next to
>> the constant mooing because cows are cool. grins In closing, one last
>> ram joke I forgot..
>> Baaaah Ram Yew!
>> See Babe the Pig for reference. grins
>>
>>
>> On 10/8/13, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi James and Michael,
>>> Yeah, it is hard trying to break the dwarf paradigm.
>>> The whole griffon idea came from the game I used to play on the amiga
>>> called warlords. I loosely based this on that game.
>>> Bears are tough to picture as mounts. The only reason it even came to
>>> mind is that I had seen a cover of, I think it was a magazine called
>>> white dwarf.
>>> It had a dwarf riding a berserking bear and I always thought that
>>> this was cool.
>>>
>>> Moles? I don't see it. War goats or rams (built dodge tough) might
>>> be interesting though. Still, how do I make it not seem laughable
>>> when the dwarf war goat cavalry makes that bleating sound? It would
>>> just seem amuseing I think. Although, if I remember right, don't
>>> goats factor in somewhere in the norse myths? I think thor had a goat
>>> driven cart, and didn't he eat them every night and they popped back
>>> to life the next day to take him wherever? Come to think of it, that
>>> is pretty
>> twisted, lol.
>>>
>>> I think I will keep the griffons.
>>> I am going to think about goats versus bears and see what sounds best.
>>> Thanks guys,
>>> That helps me narrow it down a bit.
>>>
>>> al
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>>> From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of michael
>>> Tholl
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 1:11 PM
>>> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question
>>>
>>> since they are creatures who love mining, maybe diar moles. hah!
>>> can't imagine those would be much bigger than a golden retriever at
>>> best.
>>> grins
>>> Griffons were neat, and could work if nothing else is inspiring.
>>> Perhaps mountain goats? Not really sure how big those are, but
>>> they're surely like their non-mountain kin in being stubborn as
>>> dwarves. grins If all else fails, maybe they don't really need a cav
>>> unit, just a few different types of infantry?
>>> Dwarves and cavalry seem to be a rarity in fantasy for some reason,
>>> though as far as movement differences go, this would put another
>>> disadvantage on the dwarven faction. This would probably make them
>>> next to impossible to play effectively without a perk or two like the
>> forced march skill.
>>> Moles seems a bit odd, but it could work, but the goats might be very
>>> workable.
>>> I really wanted to put in something about no use crying over spilled
>>> milk, but lots of use in swearing over spilled ale here, but I can't
>>> think of how to work it in, so I'll just hang it out to flap
>>> dangerously in the mountain air and hope it still gets a beard pulled
>>> or a grumbling chuckle from a hopeful dwarven cavalry general.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/8/13, James English <james13english@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> War ponies are for halflings.
>>>>
>>>> I'd say keep the dwarf cavalry the same, it'd be interesting to see
>>>> dwarves ridinb bears, it wouldn't work.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/8/13, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Hey guys,
>>>>> I was wondering what might be the best critters for a dwarf.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the first warlords map pack the dwarves rode on griffons raised
>>>>> on the mountain slops.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure that this really works for dwarves, being people of
>>>>> stone and rock.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I am trying to think of what else might a dwarf ride. Horses are
>>>>> out of the question, and war ponies is just laughable.
>>>>> So I was thinking bears. Cave bears I guess. They would be slower,
>>>>> like move three spaces, but considering the entire dwarf infantry,
>>>>> that is fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am wondering if anyone could think of anything else that might
>>>>> work for a dwarf?
>>>>> Also, I was thinking about the siege tower and if that should
>>>>> replace the ballista, be an added unit to fill a cavalry slot, or
>>>>> what to do with
>>> it.
>>>>> The biggest thing is that there is a stone elemental caster for
>>>>> dwarves that I think suits them.
>>>>>
>>>>> So any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. I am running
>>>>> out of ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> al
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>>>>> "The truth will make you free"
>>>>> Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33AD
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