A bull cavalry would be really awesome! I amnot sure if bulls hang out in or around mountains though. They seem to be more of a plains type critter. I could see centaurs having a bull cavalry maybe riden by satyrs or something equally greek. Their charge would be tremendous! Thanks for that idea! al -----Original Message----- From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cathrine Røksland Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 3:04 AM To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question Hi! How about dwarves riding bulls? Cathrine -----Original Message----- From: James English Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:49 AM To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question Rams are male sheep. I'm very sorry, but if I saw gallopping sheep coming towards me, I would not be very scared. How about having the dwarves drive crude tank-like constructions, as they're masters of metal? On 10/9/13, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote: > LOL, > That you even watched babe the pig makes me shudder. > Oh vile heart that lurks in the breast of those that watch talking > pigs and quotes thus...MOO! > > As for rams. What do they sound like? I am trying to remember what > they even look like. Do they have the curly horns? I thought they > might be sheep at first. I don't know, see one horned bovine like > mammal, see them all. > > I guess the issue is, which part of the animal kingdom is rams? That's > right, I am looking for ramparts, grin. > > Talking about pigs, maybe a wild boar would be interesting? I don't > know, that still seems to open for amusement instead of serious dwarfness. Sigh. > > I think I might just do the bears. I got sounds for bears and boars... > I know what you are talking about. Those bullettes or whatever they are > called, if I remember my dungeons and dragons monster manual, were > some kind of large "land shark" or land whale that ate everything it > could find. The thing is, people will be scratching their heads about > what the heck a bullet is, lol. I mean I could say the dwarvs will > just use a remorhaz and then when that gets tired, find a local behir > rental agency...but that might not have the same effect as saying, > rode a panther and then hopped on a komodo dragon, grin. > > Did you hear about the goat that went to college? He always waited to > the last minute, so that he was always "ramming" for a test. > Yeah, that last one sucked. Just wipe that last one from your mind and > pretend it never happened. > > al > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of michael > Tholl > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 9:31 PM > To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question > > Hey Allan, > You can't just break out rams commercials and not toss in a pun. gasps > in horror. > Rams, built dwarf tough! > Okay, now I want rams! grumble stamp, grumble stamp! > Sorry, old white beard the brawling barkeep took over the keyboard for > a second. > Bears would sound kind of cool, I just wonder how many step ladders it > would take to get a dwarf mounted. grin Just think of the ram > possibilities. > charging rams, leaping rams, > deadly head butting rams, battering rams, breading rams, baking rams. > rack of ram. okay, this won't work so well. Still, that would be > pretty in line with the mountain animal thing. > I suppose they could ride bulletts.. however that's spelled. > Though I don't know if those things are trainable since they're some > sort of shelled lizard thing if I remember right.. > As for goats.. Everyone hates the goats. poor goats, they're the joke > of the horned and hooved family of the animal kingdom. Well, next to > the constant mooing because cows are cool. grins In closing, one last > ram joke I forgot.. > Baaaah Ram Yew! > See Babe the Pig for reference. grins > > > On 10/8/13, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi James and Michael, >> Yeah, it is hard trying to break the dwarf paradigm. >> The whole griffon idea came from the game I used to play on the amiga >> called warlords. I loosely based this on that game. >> Bears are tough to picture as mounts. The only reason it even came to >> mind is that I had seen a cover of, I think it was a magazine called >> white dwarf. >> It had a dwarf riding a berserking bear and I always thought that >> this was cool. >> >> Moles? I don't see it. War goats or rams (built dodge tough) might >> be interesting though. Still, how do I make it not seem laughable >> when the dwarf war goat cavalry makes that bleating sound? It would >> just seem amuseing I think. Although, if I remember right, don't >> goats factor in somewhere in the norse myths? I think thor had a goat >> driven cart, and didn't he eat them every night and they popped back >> to life the next day to take him wherever? Come to think of it, that >> is pretty > twisted, lol. >> >> I think I will keep the griffons. >> I am going to think about goats versus bears and see what sounds best. >> Thanks guys, >> That helps me narrow it down a bit. >> >> al >> >> >> From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of michael >> Tholl >> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 1:11 PM >> To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: dwarf question >> >> since they are creatures who love mining, maybe diar moles. hah! >> can't imagine those would be much bigger than a golden retriever at best. >> grins >> Griffons were neat, and could work if nothing else is inspiring. >> Perhaps mountain goats? Not really sure how big those are, but >> they're surely like their non-mountain kin in being stubborn as >> dwarves. grins If all else fails, maybe they don't really need a cav >> unit, just a few different types of infantry? >> Dwarves and cavalry seem to be a rarity in fantasy for some reason, >> though as far as movement differences go, this would put another >> disadvantage on the dwarven faction. This would probably make them >> next to impossible to play effectively without a perk or two like the > forced march skill. >> Moles seems a bit odd, but it could work, but the goats might be very >> workable. >> I really wanted to put in something about no use crying over spilled >> milk, but lots of use in swearing over spilled ale here, but I can't >> think of how to work it in, so I'll just hang it out to flap >> dangerously in the mountain air and hope it still gets a beard pulled >> or a grumbling chuckle from a hopeful dwarven cavalry general. >> >> >> On 10/8/13, James English <james13english@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> War ponies are for halflings. >>> >>> I'd say keep the dwarf cavalry the same, it'd be interesting to see >>> dwarves ridinb bears, it wouldn't work. >>> >>> On 10/8/13, Allan Thompson <allan1.thompson@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Hey guys, >>>> I was wondering what might be the best critters for a dwarf. >>>> >>>> In the first warlords map pack the dwarves rode on griffons raised >>>> on the mountain slops. >>>> >>>> I am not sure that this really works for dwarves, being people of >>>> stone and rock. >>>> >>>> So I am trying to think of what else might a dwarf ride. Horses are >>>> out of the question, and war ponies is just laughable. >>>> So I was thinking bears. Cave bears I guess. They would be slower, >>>> like move three spaces, but considering the entire dwarf infantry, >>>> that is fast. >>>> >>>> I am wondering if anyone could think of anything else that might >>>> work for a dwarf? >>>> Also, I was thinking about the siege tower and if that should >>>> replace the ballista, be an added unit to fill a cavalry slot, or >>>> what to do with >> it. >>>> The biggest thing is that there is a stone elemental caster for >>>> dwarves that I think suits them. >>>> >>>> So any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. I am running >>>> out of ideas. >>>> >>>> al >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "The truth will make you free" >>>> Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33AD >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >