[ian-reeds-games] Re: announcing a new map: river defence reloaded
- From: "Dickson Tan" <dickson.jaws@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:50:45 +0800
Hi Alan
If I understand you correctly, you have a rage point set to 0, having it set
to 1 when outrage is cast then have it set to 0 when it ends. But am not
sure how it would stop the units from repeatedly using the skill. It might
have been fixed in the latest dev version but I'm playing the stable version
because the colored graphics that are shown for friendly/enemy units aren't
shown in dev 11. I do rely on that a lot as it is pretty helpful for me.
Another simpler solution that I've thought of is having 5 max rage points.
When you use outrage, it uses up all 5 and you regen 1 rage point per round.
That way, the only way that it can use outrage is to wait for rage points to
get to 5, which is when it ends. If I remember correctly, I think there is a
way to hide points from the player as this only serves a function for the
AI.
Dickson
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allan Thompson
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:31 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: announcing a new map: river defence reloaded
Hi Dickson,
The balanceing act is something I know only too well, lol. Believe me, I
know it is a real bear sometimes.
Thanks for being attentive, everyone is diffrent when it comes to criticism
of their work.
I seem to recall this was a bug that I thought Ian resolved. I do have a
trick I used to create a large merchant kind of trading map that never saw
the light of day.
Essentially what you do is to give the units you want to have outrage a
point of something, like a rage point or a magical effect point.
Whatever it is, put it on the units and make it currently zero.
Then witht he outrage skill, have it "heal" that point thru a restore when
outrage is cast. You want to label the skill "ai_heal" as a flag.
when the outrage wears off, have that one point removed, probably thru an
effect when it was cast on the unit.
What should happen is that the caster will cast it on the one unit, and
seeing other units requireing the healing outrage, will cast it on the
others. Hopefully this will stop it from multiple casting.
I can't think of another solution at the moment. Hopefully that will help or
get you int he right direction.
al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dickson Tan <mailto:dickson.jaws@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:28 PM
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: announcing a new map: river defence reloaded
Hi Alan
No offence taken, thanks a lot for the feedback. I love constructive
suggestions about how I can improve the map pack.
1. The file is a 7-zip self-extracting archive that when you run it, will
ask you where you would like the file to be extracted. Maybe I should have
made it clearer, but I hoped that it would be easier than requiring people
to have an archiving programme installed. Maybe I'll package them in .zip
for future releases and fixes.
2. Thanks, I find that writing out a detailed user guide first is not only a
good reference for players of my maps but also an excellent reference for me
when I code the maps.
3. I was considering whether I should give the players archers because I am
doing a balancing act between giving players more strategies to play with
and the map difficulty. One of the top priorities for this map was to make
it fun and beatable, and yet challenging at the same time. If it seems too
unbalanced towards the enemy, I'll add player-controlled archers in the near
future.
4. Help with more sound effects would be welcome, truthfully I have been
devoting more time to the map design.
5. The AI taking an extremely long turn is a concern, especially when the
next map I am writing will be on a greater scale. I probably won't make them
spawn, but will use a combination of sight range and the use_unexplored or
use_unseen features. I notice though that there is a lot of repetition when
the evil dark lightning mage uses icy armor on the evil grunt x 6. Are any
plans to make the speech output condense similar lines? That will definitely
shorten the AI's turn. I will probably remove the defend skill from the AI
only as a last resort.
On another note, although I have set the self flag of the skill outrage, I
am getting reports that the AI is using outrage repeatedly, even though
there is no benefit to doing so when outrage is still in effect. Previously,
they were using it on other enemy units which would be extremely painful for
the player :p. Do you know how I could stop it from wasting its AP on
repeated outrages?
In response to this feedback, I've released a small update that can be
downloaded at
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2138237/Victorious%20maps%20beta%204.1.zip with the
following changes:
-In addition to the +2 range bonus, hills now have a sight_range_mod of +2
-reduced the sight range of all units from 5 to 4. 4 was chosen as it is the
archer's attacking range. I hope that this shortens the computers turn.
-use the use_unseen instead of use_unexplored flags
-groundwork for next map: added elemental points and the earth, holy and
unholy damage types. Changed lightning damage to electric
Dickson
From: ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ian-reeds-games-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allan Thompson
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 7:17 AM
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] Re: announcing a new map: river defence reloaded
Hi Dickson,
I downloaded and played the map pack. I wanted to say a few things, almost
all good, lol.
First off, I dont' like fords. I prefer chevy or toyota, grin. Ok, sorry,I
just couldn't help myself.
1. The file itself when downloaded was an .EXE file extension. Since I am
not hugely computer literate, I was afraid it was something else, and not
the map pack. So I used 7zip and unzipped it and put it where it belonged.
Was it supposed to install itself or something?
2. The user guide was excellent. It was a pleasure to read. Informative,
description of the scenario was good and overall just a excellent document.
Good work.
3. This isn't a complaint or anything, but I was just wondering why the
player doesn't have archers? I was just curious.
4. Some of the attack sounds sounded like misses, when they weren't. I know
you said you were working on sounds, and so perhaps you had something else
in mind. With the chance flag in TB, sounds are now more seperated into
swings and misses so it was noticable and sounded weird.
If you are looking for more hit sounds, I can give you a list of sound
effect websites that have free sounds, and also I might have some extra hit
sounds in my libary you can use as well, just contact me off list if you
would like me to search for some.
5. There is a huge amount of enemies... This is really my only real problem
with the map. The thing is, I know it is important to have this many bad
guys, cause otherwise, how can it be the heroic defense?
So they are needed. The only problem is that they all seem to get to do an
action of some sort. Which means a long lag time of a bounch of grunts and
the like "defending" all the time since they can't do anything else.
The only two ways I can think of for cutting off some time from the
computer taking it's excessively long turn, is to use the use_unseen and
use_unexplored flags, or one of them anyway that would block alot of that
chatter, hopefully. The second option would be to get rid of the defend
skill, and see if that cuts down the chatter as well. Maybe, a third way,
but not preferable I dont think, is the use of spawning spots. This would
cut back the number of units significantly, yet could still produce a large
number of units over a period of time.
I hope you didn't take offense at this, cause I really do enjoy the map. I
haven't solved it yet, but it is fun and addictive. The tactics are
definately necessary to survive teh encounter and it is a good map overall.
I like the diffrent mages and their diffrent spells and it is well done. So
I think you did a fantastic job.
al
"The truth will set you free"
Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dickson Tan <mailto:dickson.jaws@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ian-reeds-games@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: [ian-reeds-games] announcing a new map: river defence reloaded
Hi All
If anyone's interested, I've wrote a new map inspired by Ian's river defence
map and hope to have a larger sequel for it out soon. It can be found at
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2138237/Victorious%20maps%20beta%204.exe and its
user guide resides at https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2138237/user%20guide.txt
It Is missing quite a lot of sounds and is still in rough beta, so there
might still be some bugs and balance issues.
Thoughts and suggestions for it are welcome.
Have fun
Dickson
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