[haiku] Re: themes
- From: Adam Smith <amsmith42@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku <haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 09:01:10 -0500
May I just say (not to divert from the topic at hand) but it made me
chuckle to read the words "googling hard"?
I completely understand everyone's point of view in this discussion. As
many of us are, I am a long time BeOS fan. The current Haiku window design
does bring me feelings of nostalgia, for what was and the potential BeOS
had. Since Haiku hasn't changed what BeOS looked like over 15 years ago,
while others--Mac OS, Gnome, Enlightenment, KDE, Windows, etc., etc.--have
changed so dramatically, it is easy to fall into this sense of "old" or
"outdated". Obviously, the GUI is the first impression of any computer
software. The design is arguably the most important part. Just look at
the fuss made when Canonical introduced Unity or Microsoft
released...everything from Windows XP on.
At the same time, it is understandable for those who have worked and
continue to work so hard on Haiku to be reluctant to want to change it.
There are some very good reasons not to change the GUI in Haiku, but I
think the most important is priority. It is very "easy" for someone to
offer to change it, not knowing what all that would entail. Everyone
involved has their "wish list" for Haiku and their own talents for making
that happen. In the end, it is the developers who are going to be in the
driver's seat-- they will decide what needs to be worked on and in what
order.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Stephan Aßmus <superstippi@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am 19.04.2014 09:02, schrieb Skar Cat:
>
>> hi, this week when i was promting haiku os in social networks, some
>> people say haiku trasmit and is similar to win98, then they thing haiku
>> are old, i know that is a lie but we should accept haiku become a look
>> and feel no so modern... i am designer can i help with it? appearence is
>> no so important when the core import but we love haiku and the last
>> thing i want is people forget how modern it is.
>>
>
> My opinion is not worth much, since I am mostly responsible for the
> current Haiku design. But I think the actual theme is not so dated. I agree
> however that Haiku /looks/ dated.
>
> I see many reasons for that. Most important is the lack of sufficient
> white space. White space is used extensively in modern designs. Haiku looks
> crammed. In some situations, too much white space is bad for productivity.
> When I installed Ubuntu Gnome 14.04, the spacing between list view items
> has again increased so much, that it actually hinders my productivity in
> apps like Eclipse. I found no settings to change this either, despite
> googling hard.
>
> Another problem in Haiku is lack of animations and lack of drop shadows
> which are a natural way to separate items from background. Also too much
> use of borders and frames.
>
> It's hard to change these things without breaking tons of apps. That and
> general lack of time is why it doesn't progress. It's very easy to make a
> mockup of how Haiku could look. It's very hard to change it in the code so
> all apps actually still look good.
>
> Best regards,
> -Stephan
>
>
>
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