[snip] >I would suggest something more in the lines of PROMOTING the use of Python Great. Easy to learn, OOP-Style, and the possibility to code close to the actual OS API, if needed. >1) We can bind the native C++ libraries right into the system. Thats >right, you can access and use the C++ libs in the OOP style that they where >designed to be used in. That means that you get the performance of those >base libraries as well. The BeOS API is relatively simple and very clean to >impliment for a understanding level. This will give give hobbiest and >non-C++ programmers a chance to easily learn the Be API without having to >mess with the details or relative complications of C++. As far as I know there exists a bunch of Python modules called "Bethon", that provide wrappers for most of the Be API, especially the GUI-Stuff. >2) IDE's for python already exist and can easily be ported. An IDE should not be the problem. What could be a bit harder (ok more than just a bit) would be a point and click RAD-Tool for Python. >3) Python itself is VERY portable and can easily be ported to Be. I am runnig Python 2.1 here an I am quite sure there already is later version. >4) This project is in scope of the capability of the group (IMHO), a visual >basic solution is not. Tell you what after R1, we will sit down together again and talk it through. Having even more Python support on BeOS/OBOS sounds that great to me, I'd even be willing to do something for it. -Olli -- You can't out-sarcasm reality.