On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:09 AM, kirilla@xxxxxxxxxx <jonas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I'm of the opinion that Haiku needs a redesign, even though I'm not clear > on what should change. (Could be just me, and everyone else is happy.) I'm very on the fence on this issue. Using Haiku as it is now gives me that warm, fuzzy, BeOS-nostalgia feeling, but I also feel like the look could be updated. The more I use other systems and see them updated and improved, the more I notice Haiku looking out-dated. On that note, I think there are two kinds of UI changes to consider: purely visual changes, and user interaction/usability changes. I think the latter tend to be more difficult and far reaching, and have a bigger impact on the user. Despite our goal to replicate BeOS R5 for Haiku R1, I think visual updates could be done and I think might even be necessary. As we all know it is taking a while for us to produce the R1 release. The longer it takes the more dated Haiku will look. I know Haiku is definitely updated compared to BeOS, and I too have complained about the people who just say "Haiku looks old" from just looking at screenshots. But the world is always moving and changing and people are getting used to slick, nicely designed applications on their phones and tablets. Like it or not, Haiku looking "slick" will help build interest. > A redesign would strain user (and dev) acceptance. One would need > a roadmap, and avoid adding UI features that don't fit the end goal. This is definitely true. Unfortunately in a project like Haiku without hard leadership like Shuttleworth, user interaction proposals and ideas might be mired in Bike Shed land forever. On the topic of the Ubuntu HUD, it reminds me very much of Enso (which he does at least acknowledge in the blog post): http://humanized.com/enso/ I always thought Enso was neat, though it also reminds very much of Quicksilver or GnomeDo or pick-your-app-launcher-with-plugins software. Adding in the menu items is a nice evolutionary step, but not quite as revolutionary as Shuttleworth makes it out to be. Nonetheless it is a neat idea, and for a while I've thought having something Enso-like on Haiku would be nice. -- Regards, Ryan