Excerpt from Augustin Cavalier: > I don't think we should remove the "Demos". An IDE can easily go alongside the > demos - no need to remove them, we've got plenty of space. Also, I don't think > the developer tools should be included by default -- enough of our users are > not developers and it's easy enough to install packages now that I say we > leave the GCCs out of the release image. I can't let this go by without responding, strongly think GCC and/or llvm/clang and developer tools should be included as they are in NetBSD, FreeBSD and most Linux distributions. I wouldn't want to install NetBSD, FreeBSD or Linux, or Haiku, without the tools to rebuild the system and add-on packages. FreeBSD, NetBSD, and Haiku too, are set up so a user can build/rebuild the packages and system from scripts without in-depth developer knowledge. Tom