[hackpgh-discuss] Re: PCB class
- From: Sayan Chakraborty <c.sayan@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: hackpgh-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 19:58:03 -0400
Lets discuss - on the way to the shop right now
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On May 25, 2012 6:13 PM, "Matthew Beckler" <matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I created a shared google document to help us flesh out this class. I set
> it up so there is a private URL to visit to edit the document, but since
> this list is publicly archived I don't want to just post it here.
>
> If you'd like to check out / help refine the class plan, email me for the
> link!
>
> -Matthew
>
> On 05/24/2012 11:44 AM, Jeremy Herrman wrote:
>
>> I'm also very interested in this class - especially the thought process
>> that goes into routing, traces etc.
>>
>> For conflicts with your available dates, I feel it's worth mentioning
>> that Steel City Ruby Conf is on August 3rd-4th.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Matthew Beckler <matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 05/23/2012 10:13 AM, Doug Philips wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey Matt,
>> >>
>> >> Glad you're still alive and kickin'!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Matthew
>> Beckler<matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:matthew@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> As many of you know I'm going to be teaching a PCB class with Kicad
>> >>> coming
>> >>> up in a few weeks. While it's a good software EDA package, and I
>> know it
>> >>> well, what I'm struggling most with is to determine the proper scope.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Given the lack of advertising, promotion, etc. on this, I'm thinking
>> >> we'll probably only get shop members at the class. That'd be OK, but I
>> >> wanted to raise the possibility of postponing the class date to allow
>> >> for more outreach/PR, etc. as well as getting the scope worked out?
>> >
>> >
>> > That's a good point, I forgot we usually like to have a month of
>> > get-the-word-out before each class. I'm totally amenable to
>> postponing the
>> > class if that would work better. Here are the weekends I am free this
>> > summer:
>> >
>> > June 23/24
>> > June 30/31
>> > July 7/8
>> > July 14/15
>> > August 4/5 (MF Chicago, anyone going?)
>> > August 11/12
>> > August 18/19
>> > August 25/26
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> think a good group discussion should work just fine. I'm also
>> planning to
>> >>> be
>> >>> at the shop this Friday to work on the class plan (and ideally FiniSH
>> >>> IT!!!)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Perfect!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Morning session: How to go from a breadboard circuit to a schematic
>> >>> How schematics work, how we represent real work parts with symbols
>> >>> Start with a real circuit that I can make on a breadboard
>> >>> Perhaps a little uC-based RGB led toy?
>> >>> Learn how to enter schematics into Kicad
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That all sounds good.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Learn about how to make your own new schematic symbols
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> That seems kind of ambitious? Do we have some kind of open source
>> >> library that we can contribute back to?
>> >> I'm just concerned that this one item alone could take most of an
>> hour...
>> >
>> >
>> > That's a good point. Usually the existing schematic symbols are good
>> enough
>> > for almost everything you need to do, but once or twice I've had to
>> make new
>> > schematic symbols (the wii nunchuck, for example, and also a brand-new
>> > microcontroller we used in the blinky kits, both required new schematic
>> > symbols).
>> >
>> > All the symbols/footprints built into Kicad are open source, and
>> there are
>> > lots of people online who build and share their symbols/footprints
>> with the
>> > world under open licenses.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Afternoon session: How to go from a schematic to a PCB
>> >>
>> >> ... Most of this is over my head, so I have no idea how ambitious (or
>> >> mundane!) it is...
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe talk about component selection?
>> >>
>> >> Wouldn't that be part of the morning class going from breadboard to
>> >> schematic? (Again, I'm a noob, so perhaps I don't understand...)
>> >
>> >
>> > Yeah, I'm not sure where this would fit properly. Probably more in the
>> > breadboard->schematic part, you're right. Part of it is related to
>> the PCB
>> > though, in that you probably don't want to pick teeny-tiny SMT parts if
>> > you're aiming to make it easy to assemble, you know? Let's chat on
>> friday.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> Maybe have a "come back and solder up your pcb" 2-3 weeks later?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Or maybe piggy back on to another learn to solder class? (we'd still
>> >> limit the total class size)
>> >
>> >
>> > I like this idea.
>> >
>> >
>> > Also I just talked to my PCB guy (@laen from DorkbotPDX) and worked
>> out a
>> > way for us to get all our PCBs fabricated. He'll then ship them all
>> to me as
>> > a big panel, and I can separate them in time for the come-back
>> soldering
>> > class.
>> >
>> > -Matthew
>> >
>>
>>
>
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