How do you mean apply the patch with msiexec? Is the patched pushed through Group policy and kicked off or is there something that has to be done at each workstation? Matt Walker Installation Development Synergis Software 472 California Road | Quakertown, PA 18951 Phone: 215.529.9900, x192 | 800.836.5440 Fax: 215.536.9249 http://www.synergis-adept.com/ Simple, Powerful Document Management This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:18 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Determining if Group Policy Deployment is right for us.... Yes. You have to use msiexec to apply the patch to your distribution point, but it will work that way. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Walker Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:34 AM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Determining if Group Policy Deployment is right for us.... Ah, so if I deploy an .msi then need to patch, Group Policy can handle just using the .msp file and get that to the Clients? Matt Walker Installation Development Synergis Software 472 California Road | Quakertown, PA 18951 Phone: 215.529.9900, x192 | 800.836.5440 Fax: 215.536.9249 www.synergis-adept.com <http://www.synergis-adept.com/> Simple, Powerful Document Management This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. 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Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:19 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Determining if Group Policy Deployment is right for us.... Matt- I will answer the automated updating question first. You could schedule this using this, for example, a script that ran through Task Scheduler that issued a reboot across your workstations, since that would trigger the install. In terms of admin installs and patching, the examples in the whitepaper are based on products like Office, which support the notion of an administrative install and also support .MSP patching. .MSP files generally need to be applied to an administrative install, rather than a regular install, to be picked up correctly by the clients. However, your own package probably does not need to worry about this, assuming you patch your files using .MSP. Darren From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Walker Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:01 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Determining if Group Policy Deployment is right for us.... I see in the whitepaper a mention of Windows Installer administrative install (/a). Is this always necessary? Is it something that is done through normal GPO deployment or is this a manual step? In the whitepaper, it is mentioned in the contact of patching a previously deployed package, which may occur in our scenario. In following the paper, I point to the .msi for the initial deployment with no mention of the admin. install at that time. I'm just not sure how to do the patching if the /a option was not used for initial deployment. I'm just a little confused with this part (so far). ________________________________ From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nelson, Jamie R Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 2:47 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Determining if Group Policy Deployment is right for us.... Updating will always require some kind of administrator involvement regardless of what deployment method you use (unless of course you actually design an auto-update feature that is specific to your application). Scheduling, as previous mentioned, is not possible because your computer assigned software installation policy will always be dependent on a reboot of the machine. Jamie Nelson | Systems Engineer | Systems Support, Information Technology | I N T E G R I S Health | Phone 405.552.0903 | Fax 405.553.5687 | http://www.integrisok.com <http://www.integrisok.com/> From: gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gptalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Walker Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:27 PM To: gptalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gptalk] Re: Determining if Group Policy Deployment is right for us.... Also, what are the limitations of Group Policy with regard to scheduling, auto updating, and reporting? I've read that these cannot be done or are of limited functionality. For updating, how automated can it be? Does there always have to be Administrator involvement? Any further information appreciated! Thanks much!! 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