[gps-talkusers] Re: New Sense Nav with Voice Sense user.

  • From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:29:09 +0100

hi there well i use sendero a lot and also use a dog and have a tuning bag to 
carry so you can just set the gps to tell you the next intersection. i have the 
apex straped over my shoulder and sometimes use my right hand to do the braille 
commands but will have to look at the keystroke but is it m x to keep saying 
the next intersection. sometimes when i walk around i do not put in a route i 
just need to know where i am. my partner also has a dog but needs a stick for 
balance. hth.

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from: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx>
to: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
date: 2010/10/11 19:58:30
subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: New Sense Nav with Voice Sense user.

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> Keith,
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> That helps me immensely. What you are doing is precisely what I want to just 
> free up some of my neighborhood walking. There are many things I already do 
> where I have my routes set, and the dog and I can just go, but because of the 
> way my travel orientation was injured from the accident I had, I am reluctant 
> to just walk because I want to walk, and both the dog and I need to get a bit 
> more exercise through the neighborhood even if we end up at the coffee shop 
> or the neighborhood watering hole afterward. I know it will never be as it 
> once was, and I have to be extremely careful that I am making good decisions 
> for my dog and me, but I think this may help the situation.
>  
> I don't know if any of the Trekker products are still being marketed at this 
> point. I tried it because it was small, but believe I may have had a 
> defective unit, a situation I was unable to acquire proper correction for. 
> The Voice Sense note taker is a bit larger than the Trekker, but I have used 
> one of these before for note taking and reading, and I find the equipment to 
> be reliable. It will hold and manage its software reliably which will be good.
>  
> Anyway, this has gotten long, but I appreciate your input. When my Executive 
> Products case arrives later this week, I will or should be set to go out for 
> a spin.
>  
> Thanks so much for your input.
>  
> Dianne B. Phelps
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> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith (mteye)
> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:44 PM
> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: New Sense Nav with Voice Sense user.
>  
> When I finally was able to get a GPS I was excited. It meant I could navigate 
> with on demand, feedback of where I was travelling. I ran into a little of 
> the complications that you describe. I'm still far from being an expert, or 
> even proficient at it. It just takes practice. 
>  
> Your right though, the number of keystrokes that are available on a product 
> like the VoiceNote, or BrailleNote are overwhelming. I think it's wonderful 
> when travelling as a passenger, because I have the luxury of holding the unit 
> on my lap, and exploring the keys, and my surroundings at much more leisure. 
>  
> One thing to realize though is that you really don't need to touch the keys 
> much, all the time. When you walk with a cane, or a dog, you are already 
> limited to one hand, and often that spare hand is busy as you walk. 
>  
> Sure, at any moment, you can hit a button, and be reminded of a host of 
> tidbits of information. What city? What intersection, POI, heading, altitude, 
> and more. The Look Around menu has so many things to automatically announce, 
> the voice will never shut up, if that's what you want. It tends to drive me 
> nuts. 
>  
> In my own neighborhood, I rarely even set a route. All I really want to know 
> is how far to the next intersection, and what is that street name. I plug in 
> an ear bud, just one, so I can get the GPS voice piped right to my ear, and 
> still monitor my surroundings. 
>  
> Then I get the VoiceNote fired up, make sure I have satelites, strap it over 
> a shoulder, get all the wires and straps out of my way as I harness up the 
> trusty dog. And after making sure the automatic report of the next 
> intersection is on, away we go. 
>  
> It's a residential neighborhood, so there's not much for the POI reports to 
> do. All I do is walk, and listen. I might be able to get by with a more 
> streamlined GPS product like the Trekker Breeze, but I use the note taker for 
> more than just the GPS. And there are several times when the extra features 
> have been very handy in navigating surrounding towns, or making trips to the 
> city. 
>  
> When I do walk around in the small downtown area in my town, I sometimes do 
> set a route, or I'll switch from the auto announcing of intersections to 
> announce the POI's instead. There can be a lot of shops on a block that might 
> be of interest. More than street names. When I do have the need to press a 
> button, or switch a setting, I just stop walking. My dog takes five as he 
> watches me mash the buttons. It's not usually much of a problem. Although in 
> colder months it's a pain to have to take off a glove to feel the unit, and 
> get oriented on it. But I suppose that even with a Trekker, or some other 
> device, the gloves would still have to come off.  
>  
> I guess the main thing is to not get overwhelmed by the range of commands or 
> buttons. Just keep it simple. Walk and listen. Then build up from there. 
> Sometimes the instructions that the GPS is reading, or the reasoning behind 
> why it made a route the way it just did, or the sounds it makes confuse me. 
> But the more I use it, the more those sounds are starting to make sense. 
>  
> My wife sometimes gets annoyed when I take it on a trip. She doesn't like the 
> voice, she seems to have a host of complaints about the way it works. Not the 
> sendero product, but any GPS in general. I just put on the earphones and 
> monitor. One complaint she has was in the way it makes a route. She is always 
> pointing out a shortcut down a county road that might save her a few ounces 
> of gas. There are route settings that can help cut corners like this 
> sometimes. 
>  
> Just this weekend I had the chance to use the feature to record a route and 
> track her driving to our little family party we were going to attend. Now I 
> can retrace that route in realtime if I want. I made it into a regular route 
> so I don't have to worry about having the software process the route on a 
> possibly longer, or different route. She gets to take all her shortcuts, 
> without me relaying to her about being off route when she goes her own way. 
>  
> Not sure if any of that helped. 
>  
> from
> Keith H
>  
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