Hi Charles and Peter The pub and school name problem is an old one it has existed at least since version 5 and I think earlier. It only seems to be a problem with pubs that belong to national chains but is not totally consistent. The school problem appears to be consistent for all local authority schools. Virtually all the independent schools have disappeared from the maps. Getting information about TelAtlas's sources of information is very difficult. AS far as I can tell they appear to have dropped the Small Business Directory. This contains details of a large number of small businesses particularly in the health sector but also a lot of tenanted pubs, Privately run hotels and guesthouses,shops, and domestic services. The information held about these businesses was rather scrappy and did not contain the telephone number. I do not know how businesses were selected for this directory - my wife was apparently on it but we never signed up to anything to be included. Generally the UK POIs seems to be a bit of a mess. Their is no consistency. Even within the national chains of pubs there are omissions. Some big chains of restaurants are missing completely. The categorisation of POIs is also very vague. Virtually all pubs are shown as restaurants with subcategory of cafe. Doing a quick search I could find nothing under alcohol establishment. I am not sure how much of this is down to Sendero but I suspect that most of the problems are with TelAtlas's data. Even where Sendero manipulate the data they can only work with the information they have been supplied with. I am trying to make time to sit with my wife and work out what differences there are between the names of pubs and school shown on her Tomtom and on my Sendero. When I get this done I might have a clearer picture of what is going on. Charles best of luck in trying to improve the situation but I suspect it is really TelAtlas who could do with the application of a size 12 to the back end. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Bosher" <peter.bosher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: New POIs and incorrect names Hi Charles, I will need specific 3rd party ID's in order to check on what you are >asking. It would be great to have 2 examples of each category type which >you find in error. Ie. 2 pubs, 2 Guest Houses, 2 schools etc. Then I can >check on these internally to see if there is a POI conversion error and if >I >find none I can then give these third party ID's to TeleAtlas to >investigate >further. But in each of your examples I also need the real name of the POI >and what the current name means. I'll give you two pubs and two schools, and hope these will serve. I didn't see any of these problems with guest-houses, but mentioned in passing that there were fewer of these, as I have often used Sendero to find good ones which are no longer listed. Not only are they not listed but there are none at all within shooting distance whereas before there was a good selection. Now for the examples: Pubs: POI name: Woodhouse Inns ID: 308260002118895 Real name: The Cock Inn Woodhouse Inns is the national company which runs this chain of pubs all over the country. POI name: Arc Brewing Co ID: 308260002313375 Real name: The Gate Ditto; name of national company. Note that this is a widespread problem with four or five examples within a three-mile radius. Now schools (this is even more universal) POI name: Buckinghamshire County Council ID: 308260002298601 Real name: Chesham High School Buckinghamshire County Council is the local authority. POI name: Buckinghamshire County Council ID: 308260002298605 Real name: Thomas Harding Junior School Ditto. I hope this helps and keen to know what you find out. Best wishes, Peter -- ******* Peter Bosher, Email: peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.soundlinks.com/ Tel': (+44) (0) 1494 794 797 Fax: (+44) (0) 1494 583 146 snail:// SoundLinks Limited, 43 Broadlands Avenue, Chesham, Bucks. HP5 1AL England. To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with â?ounsubscribeâ?? in the Subject. To change your email settings (unsubscribe, digest only, or vacation mode): http://senderogroup.com/email.htm Additionally, to unsubscribe send an email to gps-talkusers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with â??unsubscribeâ?? in the Subject.