Hello, Chris! Chris Arnold wrote: > Sorry about that, python-cairo is python-cairo-1.0.2-14.2 and how do i > tell what version on pygtk (i think i got this from your site)? Using > gpodder on SLED SP1. Please try to install at least python-cairo 1.2.0 and see if the problem still exists. It seems that OpenSuSE has this new version of the pycairo package: http://www.novell.com/products/linuxpackages/opensuse/python-cairo.html You can see which pygtk version you have installed by opening a python shell ("python") and then typing the following: import gtk print gtk.ver Thanks, Thomas