[gha] Re: [gha-peace] Re: Re: tristesse !-THE EMPIRE OF MEN

  • From: María Cristina Azcona <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Susana Roberts <roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:40:33 -0300

out of my email



















*María Cristina Azcona*
*@macazcona*


*María Cristina Azcona*

2014-09-20 12:04 GMT-03:00 <roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> My dear soul brother,
> I am proud of you and your clear thoughts of love to humanity..
> I am another student of life ,when life demostrated me that confrontations
> did not go to any safe port. Be pacient doing the best from the spirit is
> possible to reach good understanding and respect..
> Big hugs and love to your Greece from my soul.
> From Southern windy Argentina-Patagonia..
>
> Love and admiration
> Susana
> Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Movistar (http://www.movistar.com.ar)
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> *From: * Takis Ioannides <takis.ioannides@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sender: * gha-peace-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Date: *Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:07:00 +0300
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> *Subject: *[gha-peace] Re: [gha] Re: tristesse !-THE EMPIRE OF MEN
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> Dear all GHA peacemakers,
> The ladt days i read many letters which caused a big sorrow in my heart
> and soul.
> So, i closed the e-mail, i wrote a poem in Greek. Then i visited a Greek
> christian orthodox monastery of year 1200 a, C. And i delivered there the
> poem asking Virgin Mary and mercy God to give all of us
> The ability to think wiser, to stop conflicts and egoisms and walk all
> together the path of peace and love.
>
> I don' t care about empires, politics, religions, nations, borders, glory,
> publicity, armies which bombs but garantee the peace, or invade in
> countries with their arms power. I shall never play their games.
>
> I see the WARS being in force globally, the mothers and kids suffering and
> dying in Africa, Gaza, israel ,  Syria, Ukraine, Asia, Lybia Iraq et.c.
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> If we loose our dignity, there is no reason to live on this planet.
>
> With harmonious wishes peace and love
>
> Takis Ioannides
> student of this LIFE
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> Στις Σάββατο, 20 Σεπτεμβρίου 2014, ο χρήστης Susana Roberts <
> roberts_susana@xxxxxxxxxxx> έγραψε:
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>> *I share with all of you this poem..with love , respect..and
>> tristesse..Susana.*
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>> *2014 The Empire of Men.*
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>> The empire of men on earth
>>  empty of honest love
>> with amounting of damages in galore
>> and far from  the rich understanding
>> with urgency, humanity must be peaceful
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>> Ones complain about the others
>>  others are opening roads
>> The many accuse history
>> to these automatic instruments
>> causing deads, inventions of man
>> In this age of domains and empires
>> Damaging all understanding
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>> The precious time in the circle
>> where ones compete with each other
>> Advances the extermination of the precious seeds
>> The joy and love recede
>> to the stellar matter
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>> Pacifists in their suffering lyrics
>> Dancing in the influent of blood lost
>>  crying emerging prayers of the land
>> between gathered  knees
>>   in deaf human outbreak
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>> Within each temple and each wall
>> This fire accusing the raised roots
>> Their seedstocks
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>> It will continue the story
>> Circulating fear among men
>> misunderstandings and wars
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>> Is needed the strength
>> To build and reach Peace on earth
>> be falling  the big empires' towers
>> to built another simple palace of peace
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>> Men Stop being accused
>> To be free and equals,
>> love face to face with people
>> without weapons, no conquests or defeats
>>  understand that any name
>>  no dominates any place on earth
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>> Will be the great spirit of love
>> that will shine smiles on children
>>  when daily we help
>> to plant new seeds in their garden.
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>> Susana Roberts-Argentina-September 20-2014
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>> Subject: [gha] Re: tristesse !
>> From: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 14:41:20 +0200
>> CC: mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx; gha-peace@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>> peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> Sorry, Maria and all
>> to compete is not a way for peace but the way for building empires,
>> creating wars and maintaining competition….
>> en français on dit "rivaliser". *Un mot que ne connait pas la culture de
>> la paix* basée sur la non-violence, la non-compétition et la
>> reconnaissance mutuelle, l'égalité des droits et devoirs.
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>> with gratitude for all those who are trying to understand how peace
>> is exigent.
>> May the light illuminate our spirits
>> Marie
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>> Le 19 sept. 2014 à 18:52, Leo Semashko <leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
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>>  I wish you all together  good luck to create a new GHA and new peace
>> books able to compete with ours.
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>> I also hope you smart enough to come up with a new title for your
>> organization.
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>> Best harmony wishes,
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>> Leo
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>> Dr Leo Semashko:
>> State  Councillor  of  St.  Petersburg,
>> Philosopher, Sociologist and Peacemaker from Harmony;
>> Director:  Tetrasociology Public Institute, Russia;
>> Founding President, Global Harmony Association (GHA) since 2005;
>> Director, GHA Website "Peace from Harmony": www.peacefromharmony.org
>> Global Peace Science from Harmony:
>> www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=585 and
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: María Cristina Azcona, mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx
>>   To: leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx
>>   Sent: 19 сентября 2014 г., 20:01:21
>>   Subject: [gha] Re: tristesse !
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>> IN OPPOSITION TO LEO´S DECISION OF CHANGING THE WEBPAGE TOWARDS  GALTUNG
>> AND PAUPP´s books philosophy  as the philosophy of GHA
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>> www.peacefromharmony.org
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>> MARIA CRISTINA AZCONA
>> ERNESTO KAHAN
>> PETER HAYES
>> MICHAEL ELLIS
>> GUY CREQUIE
>> FRANCOIS HOUTART
>> ADA AHARONI
>> SUSANA ROBERTS
>> AMMAR BANNI
>> HILARIE ROSEMAN
>> HEDVA
>> HAROLD BECKER
>> EVELIN LINDNER
>> STEPHEN GILL
>> THEA MARIE ROBERT
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>> *María Cristina Azcona @macazcona María Cristina Azcona *2014-09-19 7:54
>> GMT-03:00 Thérése Marie ROBERT <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
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>> *Dear Maria and all members You can add my name to the list Dr Théa Marie
>> ROBERT from France *Message sent on yesterday to Ernesto :
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>> *Thérése Marie ROBERT <theamarierobert@xxxxxx> *À : Prof. Ernesto Kahan <
>> ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Re: (peace from harmony) Re: [gha-peace] Re: My position + + Peace and
>> harmony are incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance: cleansing GHA
>> from them
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>> Dearest Ernesto
>> Thank you for this position which is a "waiting" and "opening" one. I
>> hope Leo can understand your neutral and peaceful position, effectively, we
>> are waiting for another attitude from GHA president, from each one who is
>> proclaiming values of peace.
>> Your spirit is very high, and your attitude full of wisdom.
>> You are right. I think also that the third war has begun… See how
>> President Obama who obtained Peace Nobel Prize feels obliged ?? to do war
>> and go for fighting against islamic terrorism ( it's not a way of islam but
>> a way of barbarism, like genocides and nazism period were the worst
>> expression of barbarism… )
>>  The actual situation between the best and the worst is extremely
>> fragile. and all people seem to be fragilized too, by financial, economical
>> and social problems, the essential values for life being lost. The ancient
>> world is falling down but this will not be without terrible violence, I
>> deplore it. Global Conscience of humanity isn't enough high, or basic,
>> simplified, it hasn't enough wisdom.
>> I don't want to speak about responsibilities. They are into all the
>> minds. What is sure, when one prepares bombs and armaments using sciences,
>> people and governments are projecting and accepting war. It'll be done one
>> day or another! Unfortunately!
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>> *I looked at the internet page of GHA site. There are positions which
>> aren't neutral, images of books against USA empire. This isn't correct for
>> a group of reflexion supposed to create new paradigms for peace on earth.
>> There is a manipulation for directing the thought against USA empire. No
>> empire is good, the empires want to express their superiority for creating
>> a leadership. We'd our empire with Napoleon. URSS 'd its one with Staline,
>> with Poutine ???? All political systems use the power of dominations : a
>> leader winner and many subjects who lost.  I hope Leo can understand and
>> create other visions for peace as GHA President. If not I couldn't support
>> GHA as muse of harmony. Do you understand my english ? *The best for you
>> and Mirri
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>> Marie
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>> Le 18 sept. 2014 à 19:04, María Cristina Azcona <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx>
>> a écrit :
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>> now we have
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>> VOTES   against the new  GHA WEBSITE facade
>> FEATURING  antinorthamerican aspect
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>> MARIA CRISTINA AZCONA
>> ERNESTO KAHAN
>> PETER HAYES
>> MICHAEL ELLIS
>> GUY CREQUIE
>> FRANCOIS HOUTART
>> ADA AHARONI
>> SUSANA ROBERTS
>> AMMAR BANNI
>> HILARIE ROSEMAN
>> HEDVA
>> HAROLD BECKER
>> EVELIN LINDNER
>> STEPHEN GILL
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>> *María Cristina Azcona @macazcona María Cristina Azcona *2014-09-18
>> 13:55 GMT-03:00 Francois Houtart <houtart@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> Tout á fait d'accord et la contribution sur le Khalifat sera bien utile.
>> Francois
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>> François Houtart
>> Profesor en el Instituto de Altos Estudios Nacionales (I.A.E.N.)
>> houtart@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Fundación Pueblo Indio del Ecuador
>> Calle Ruiz de Castilla N. 26-92 y Sosaya
>> 170520 - Quito ECUADOR
>> Tel. (593) (2) 32.12.100 Cel. (593) 09.69.55.06.40
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>> Rue Kelle, 192/6 - B-1150 Bruxelles
>> Tel. (32) 476.31.50.53
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>> From: guy.crequie@xxxxxxxxxx
>> To: gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; peace-from-harmony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> CC: ammarbanni@xxxxxxxx; ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; leo.semashko@xxxxxxxxx;
>> marieeau77@xxxxxxx; mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx; ada.aharoni06@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gha] tristesse !
>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:56:29 +0200
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>> *Ce ne sont plus des références scientifiques et philosophiques et une
>> conception libre, plurielle comme chercheurs de paix et de libertés qui
>> animent nos débats, mais l’affirmation chez certains de conceptions
>> idéologiques dont certaine semblent un retour aux conceptions les plus
>> rétrogrades et dangereuses de ce qui a été appelé la guerre froide, et la
>> période qui a précédé la seconde guerre mondiale et qui a conduit à ce que
>> l’on a connu. Shoah, utilisation de l’arme atomique, politique des blocs,
>> opposition Nord /Sud……………….     Alors, que l’union européenne connaît une
>> montée des mouvements populistes, xénophobes et antisémite , que le
>> terrorisme islamiste menace nos civilisations, certes, je ne suis pas un
>> promoteur et un défenseur du capitalisme international dominé par les
>> Etats-Unis et à ses responsabilités : /Irak, Afghanistan, Syrie……………
>> Cependant, la situation de l’Etat du monde, ne passe pas par des exclusions
>> et suppressions, mais : par des coopérations et  recherches pour un nouveau
>> mode de développement  économique, social et politique qui s’appuie sur une
>> conception philosophique qui intègre et dépasse matérialisme et idéalisme.
>>   Pour ma part, je ne participerai à aucun livre ou recherche qui ne
>> respecte pas mes conceptions libres du travail théorique et d’une éthique
>> de la responsabilité. Ma vie publique étant maintenant limitée dans sa
>> durée, je dois sélectionner mon investissement, choisir mes cibles
>> prioritaires….   A cette fin à mon retour après 15 jours d’absence, je
>> m’attellerai à la question du califat ( Khalifa en arabe), remis sur le
>> devant de des opinions publiques par ’Etat islamique du levant et en Irak,
>> ceci, pour en livrer les conditions historiques, mais aussi ses troubles,
>> problèmes, compte tenu de l’histoire de l’Islam . Cependant , bien de nos
>> contemporains ont maintenant cette vision que Islam = excès et violences,
>> voire fanatisme et barbarie.   Les Djihadistes de l'organisation de l’État
>> islamique sont de plus en plus désignés par le terme "Daesh" qui est
>> l'acronyme en arabe de l’État Islamique en Irak et au Levant. Ce sont
>> certains médias arabes qui ont décidé de les désigner ainsi pour ne pas
>> jouer le jeu de la propagande. Le but étant d'effacer toute notion "d’État"
>> et "d'islam".   Déchiffrer, ce qu’il en est pour des pratiques instruites,
>> fera partie de mon investissement intellectuel pour le temps qu’il me reste
>>   Cordialement.   Guy CREQUIE     Hello,     Which unhappiness is mine to
>> note what it becomes about it GHA, design of peace and harmony   It is not
>> any more of the scientific and philosophical references and a free, plural
>> design as researchers of peace and freedoms which animate our debates, but
>> the assertion at some of ideological designs of which some seem a return to
>> the retrograde designs and dangerous of what was called the cold war, and
>> the period which preceded the Second World War and which led so that one
>> knew. Shoah, use of the atomic weapon, East-West policy, NORTH-SOUTH
>> opposition ...................     Then, that the European Union knows a
>> rise of the populist movements, xenophobe and anti-semite, that islamist
>> terrorism threatens our civilizations, certainly, I am not a promoter and a
>> defender of the international capitalism dominated by the United States and
>> with his responsibilities: /Irak, Afghanistan, Syria ...............
>> However, the situation of the State of the world, does not pass by
>> exclusions and suppressions, but: by co-operations and research for a new
>> fashion of economic development, social and policy who is based on a
>> philosophical design which integrates and exceeds materialism and idealism.
>>   For my part, I will not take part in any book or seeks which does not
>> respect my free designs of theoretical work and an ethics of the
>> responsibility. My public life being now limited in his duration, I must
>> select my investment, choose my priority targets….   For this purpose on my
>> return after 15 days of absence, I will harness myself with the question of
>> the caliphate (Arabic Khalifa), given about the front of public opinions
>> per ' Islamic State of raising and to Iraq, this, to deliver of them the
>> historical conditions, but also his disorders, problems, taking into
>> account the history of Islam. However, well of our contemporaries have this
>> vision now that Islam = excess and violences, even fanaticism and cruelty.
>>   Djihadistes of the organization of the Islamic State are indicated more
>> and more by the term “Daesh” which is the Arabic acronym of the State
>> Islamique in Iraq and with Raising. These are certain Arab media which
>> decided to indicate them thus not to play the game of propaganda. The goal
>> being to erase any concept “of State” and “Islam”.   To Decipher, which it
>> is for educated practices, will be part of my intellectual investment for
>> time that it remains me   Cordially.   Guy CREQUIE*
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