[gha] Re: tristesse !
- From: "Thérése Marie ROBERT" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "marieeau77@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)
- To: gha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 12:54:03 +0200
Dear Maria and all members
You can add my name to the list
Dr Théa Marie ROBERT
from France
Message sent on yesterday to Ernesto :
Thérése Marie ROBERT <theamarierobert@xxxxxx>
À : Prof. Ernesto Kahan <ekahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Re: (peace from harmony) Re: [gha-peace] Re: My position + + Peace and harmony
are incompatible with lie, slander and ignorance: cleansing GHA from them
Dearest Ernesto
Thank you for this position which is a "waiting" and "opening" one. I hope Leo
can understand your neutral and peaceful position, effectively, we are waiting
for another attitude from GHA president, from each one who is proclaiming
values of peace.
Your spirit is very high, and your attitude full of wisdom.
You are right. I think also that the third war has begun… See how President
Obama who obtained Peace Nobel Prize feels obliged ?? to do war and go for
fighting against islamic terrorism ( it's not a way of islam but a way of
barbarism, like genocides and nazism period were the worst expression of
barbarism… )
The actual situation between the best and the worst is extremely fragile. and
all people seem to be fragilized too, by financial, economical and social
problems, the essential values for life being lost. The ancient world is
falling down but this will not be without terrible violence, I deplore it.
Global Conscience of humanity isn't enough high, or basic, simplified, it
hasn't enough wisdom.
I don't want to speak about responsibilities. They are into all the minds. What
is sure, when one prepares bombs and armaments using sciences, people and
governments are projecting and accepting war. It'll be done one day or another!
Unfortunately!
I looked at the internet page of GHA site. There are positions which aren't
neutral, images of books against USA empire. This isn't correct for a group of
reflexion supposed to create new paradigms for peace on earth. There is a
manipulation for directing the thought against USA empire. No empire is good,
the empires want to express their superiority for creating a leadership. We'd
our empire with Napoleon. URSS 'd its one with Staline, with Poutine ????
All political systems use the power of dominations : a leader winner and many
subjects who lost.
I hope Leo can understand and create other visions for peace as GHA President.
If not I couldn't support GHA as muse of harmony.
Do you understand my english ?
The best for you and Mirri
Marie
Le 18 sept. 2014 à 19:04, María Cristina Azcona <mcrisazcona@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit
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> Subject: [gha] tristesse !
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:56:29 +0200
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> Bonjour,
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> Quelle tristesse est la mienne de constater ce qu’il en devient de GHA, de la
> conception de la paix et de l’harmonie
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> Ce ne sont plus des références scientifiques et philosophiques et une
> conception libre, plurielle comme chercheurs de paix et de libertés qui
> animent nos débats, mais l’affirmation chez certains de conceptions
> idéologiques dont certaine semblent un retour aux conceptions les plus
> rétrogrades et dangereuses de ce qui a été appelé la guerre froide, et la
> période qui a précédé la seconde guerre mondiale et qui a conduit à ce que
> l’on a connu. Shoah, utilisation de l’arme atomique, politique des blocs,
> opposition Nord /Sud……………….
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> Alors, que l’union européenne connaît une montée des mouvements populistes,
> xénophobes et antisémite , que le terrorisme islamiste menace nos
> civilisations, certes, je ne suis pas un promoteur et un défenseur du
> capitalisme international dominé par les Etats-Unis et à ses responsabilités
> : /Irak, Afghanistan, Syrie……………
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> Cependant, la situation de l’Etat du monde, ne passe pas par des exclusions
> et suppressions, mais : par des coopérations et recherches pour un nouveau
> mode de développement économique, social et politique qui s’appuie sur une
> conception philosophique qui intègre et dépasse matérialisme et idéalisme.
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> Pour ma part, je ne participerai à aucun livre ou recherche qui ne respecte
> pas mes conceptions libres du travail théorique et d’une éthique de la
> responsabilité. Ma vie publique étant maintenant limitée dans sa durée, je
> dois sélectionner mon investissement, choisir mes cibles prioritaires….
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> A cette fin à mon retour après 15 jours d’absence, je m’attellerai à la
> question du califat ( Khalifa en arabe), remis sur le devant de des opinions
> publiques par ’Etat islamique du levant et en Irak, ceci, pour en livrer les
> conditions historiques, mais aussi ses troubles, problèmes, compte tenu de
> l’histoire de l’Islam . Cependant , bien de nos contemporains ont maintenant
> cette vision que Islam = excès et violences, voire fanatisme et barbarie.
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> Les Djihadistes de l'organisation de l’État islamique sont de plus en plus
> désignés par le terme "Daesh" qui est l'acronyme en arabe de l’État Islamique
> en Irak et au Levant. Ce sont certains médias arabes qui ont décidé de les
> désigner ainsi pour ne pas jouer le jeu de la propagande. Le but étant
> d'effacer toute notion "d’État" et "d'islam".
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> Déchiffrer, ce qu’il en est pour des pratiques instruites, fera partie de mon
> investissement intellectuel pour le temps qu’il me reste
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> Cordialement.
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> Which unhappiness is mine to note what it becomes about it GHA, design of
> peace and harmony
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> It is not any more of the scientific and philosophical references and a free,
> plural design as researchers of peace and freedoms which animate our debates,
> but the assertion at some of ideological designs of which some seem a return
> to the retrograde designs and dangerous of what was called the cold war, and
> the period which preceded the Second World War and which led so that one
> knew. Shoah, use of the atomic weapon, East-West policy, NORTH-SOUTH
> opposition ...................
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> Then, that the European Union knows a rise of the populist movements,
> xenophobe and anti-semite, that islamist terrorism threatens our
> civilizations, certainly, I am not a promoter and a defender of the
> international capitalism dominated by the United States and with his
> responsibilities: /Irak, Afghanistan, Syria ...............
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> However, the situation of the State of the world, does not pass by exclusions
> and suppressions, but: by co-operations and research for a new fashion of
> economic development, social and policy who is based on a philosophical
> design which integrates and exceeds materialism and idealism.
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> For my part, I will not take part in any book or seeks which does not respect
> my free designs of theoretical work and an ethics of the responsibility. My
> public life being now limited in his duration, I must select my investment,
> choose my priority targets….
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> For this purpose on my return after 15 days of absence, I will harness myself
> with the question of the caliphate (Arabic Khalifa), given about the front of
> public opinions per ' Islamic State of raising and to Iraq, this, to deliver
> of them the historical conditions, but also his disorders, problems, taking
> into account the history of Islam. However, well of our contemporaries have
> this vision now that Islam = excess and violences, even fanaticism and
> cruelty.
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> Djihadistes of the organization of the Islamic State are indicated more and
> more by the term “Daesh” which is the Arabic acronym of the State Islamique
> in Iraq and with Raising. These are certain Arab media which decided to
> indicate them thus not to play the game of propaganda. The goal being to
> erase any concept “of State” and “Islam”.
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> To Decipher, which it is for educated practices, will be part of my
> intellectual investment for time that it remains me
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> Cordially.
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> Guy CREQUIE
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