Cheryl your words, : " The church is the body of believers." Cheryl, be careful if you move into other groups. . Here you are among understanding friends, who will tolerate much, and as Christian men we place our women upon a pedestal to be worshipped as a mother of our children, and a provider for mans needs. But please remember that before God, a woman in the hierarchy of creation must at all times be subject to men. Never is she to be contentious and argumentive with her superiors. 1 Corr, Ch. 14 34-35 35 But if they would learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is a shame for a woman to speak in the church. Church: " a body of believers?" Philip.