Gary 9/29: Dr. Jones, it is undoubtedly a shackle for you to have your status as an astonomy professional. You can no more jump up and shout "Proof!" than a medical doctor can scream "Cure!". Your respective establishments probably frown on that type of uncircumspect action. Peers at your level require peer review upon study upon peer review upon test, I am quite sure. So I'm very happy to not be you. I can go out on a limb with impunity and only get the scorn of Rob or Phillip. And I have the luxury of learning from my mistakes. Do your professional peers condone this making of mistakes in the course of learning? I don't know but I somehow don't think so. I imagine them rather harsh. My point is that I can tell everyone I know that I believe I have PROOF the earth doesn't turn. I can scream it from the bottom of my soul to the top of my heart. I know it's true. I will always maintain this, unless and until somebody can show me the error of my atmospheric views. In talking with Richard Elmendorf once he told me a good philosophy. I believe it went "The heliocentrists have been here for hundreds of years and they're not going away anytime soon, so don't be expecting that." I know that's true, but as my name, Gary, means spear carrier or warrior, I'm always up for the battle. I say we geocentrists need to throw away the scraps from Longshanks' table and go for our God-given right to something better. In geostasis, Gary Shelton > Dear Gary, > > You said to Rob that perhaps my view of the "dual nature" of the atmosphere was changing. I like to think that I am always prepared to adapt my thinking - so long as ultimately we arrive back at "God did it," which Rob unfortunately doesn't want to even allow. > > "Have you ever thought how a rotating atmosphere cannot be reconciled with Ecclesiastes 1:6? There the Bible says (KJV) "The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits." The wind goes from the south to the north and therefore, Biblically speaking, the atmosphere is most definitely precluded from rotating only west to east with a rotating earth." > > I know of this Scripture, but had never placed the meaning on it that you allude to before now. I therefore thank you sincerely for bringing it to my attention. Does anyone on the group have any contacts in the Met Office to check this over-riding N-S wind direction out? > > Neville. > > > > --------------------------------- > ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > >