-----Original Message----- From: Paul Konopacki My advice is: Don't walk 4 miles on hilly terrain the night before just to place a cache ('Dorito Black'). And get more than 4 hours of sleep beforehand. (In Barramus' words: "What were you thinking?!") GLENN: THAT'S FOR SURE, Just what were you thinking anyway?? Didn't need the duct tape, bug spray, or first aid kit. Noone got wet in the creek (except a shoe or two!) GLENN: GOOD, ya take that stuff and hope that ya never have to use it. My backpack had more in it than usual (extra cache container, snack treats, RGS' digital camera, duct tape, bug spray). I almost never used a walking stick when caching, but after navigating all those rocks, I'm a big fan, now. We took layers of clothes on and off as necessary. Going up hills usually caused clothes to come off. At the top of Wildcat it was cold and we weren't moving, so we put clothes back on. There was comfort in knowing that Island-Dave and Myotis had a good grasp of the terrain by understanding the topo maps. They kept us from getting seriously lost. Glenn: That is a good thing The group shouldn't get so spread out that they lose sight of each other. Agree that if you lose sight for a short length of time - regroup. Both Barramus and I had whistles and I almost used mine a couple of times! Whistles come in handy sometimes. As would several sets of FRS walkey talkies. I want to throw my Garmin GPS III away and get an Etrex like Myotis has. It practically pulls you in the direction of the cache! We had a goal: to finish the three caches somewhere between denali's timeframe and Glenn's timeframe! Glenn: I don't think anyone could do it SLOWER. :) ************************************************************* Our WebPage! //www.freelists.org/webpage/geocaching Mail List & Archive Info. //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=geocaching Environmental msg. of the day, "Save the spotted Cow" *************************************************************