[GeoStL] Re: Bogus MOGA logs-I have to admit, you had a good point

  • From: Michael Rogers <mrogers07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 05:56:31 -0700 (PDT)

*slaw clap*

Bravo, sir! Couldn't have said it better myself!

-Michael



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From: Andrew Senger <asenger@xxxxxxxxx>
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 11:53:59 PM
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Bogus MOGA logs-I have to admit, you had a good point

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Jim,

At my job, I'm allowed to eat for free from our restaurants because
I'm an employee. For the summer baseball games I umpire, I'm allowed
free food and water from the concession stand before and after the
game. When you volunteer for events, you're given free shirts, food,
and other swag. It's all a benefit of giving your time to the company
or organization.

How is MOGA any different? Many of these volunteers spent countless
hours getting MOGA ready for YOU. Most of them were busy the whole
weekend to ensure YOU had a fun time and had caches to find; some of
these people didn't have a chance AT ALL to even look for caches. Many
of them were out weeks in advance placing some of the caches they
weren't able to find later.

If you don't like the benefit the organizers gave the volunteers,
that's fine -- you have the right to not like it. If you think you can
run MOGA better, ask to run it next year. I'm sure Mr President would
gladly hand over the position -- I've heard it pays well.

It's fine to have personal feelings about it, but there is NO reason
to turn it into an attack on MOGA, its organizers, and (most
importantly) the volunteers who spent their own time to make MOGA what
it has become. Let me remind you that you have personally admitted to
receiving the final coordinates for puzzle/mystery caches, then logged
a find on the cache. Before you question someone else's way of playing
the game, look at your own style first. Before you blame others of
ruining the game, think about how your actions influence the game.

Frankly, I'm sick of your attitude toward everyone but yourself. If
you don't like the way MOGA was run this year, don't return next year
-- you may not be missed. If you don't like the quality of the caches
in the area, or any area, then stop caching -- no one will notice. If
you don't like SLAGA or the people involved, then leave the
organization -- they might be better off without you. As long as
people are having fun (and getting outside), why question the way they
do it?

This game doesn't revolve around you.

Andrew Senger
asenger@xxxxxxxxx



On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Jim Bensman <junkmailno@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Michael, while you may think cheating is a joke and anything to claim
> numbers is legit, here is an email I just got about my DNF on the Jolly
> Rancher cache with all identifying information redacted with ****:
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geocaching [mailto:noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:49 PM
> To: jbensman1@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GEO] ********** contacting myotis from Geocaching.com
>
>
>
> As one of the 'legitimate' finders on the cache "Jolly Roger", I applaud
> your note that you posted.  I was in the group of 7 cachers and 1 muggle who
> got the second to find on the cache.  While order of who finds a cache is
> not of importance to me, it is very disappointing to see people take a find
> on a cache that they never actually signed.  ******** as well as all the "I
> helped with MOGA" people fall into this catagory, and honestly makes me
> wonder if I ever want to attend a MOGA again.
>
>
>
> If there is any question of the authenticity of this message, I would be
> happy to forward an unredacted copy to Mr. President.
>
>
>
> Jim Bensman
> "Nature Bats Last"
>
> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 10:44 PM
> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Bogus MOGA logs-I have to admit, you had a good point
>
>
>
> I think I've got it figured out! Admit it, Jim...you love C3GPS's "freelist
> war" caches...so that's why you start so many! ;)
>
>
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
> ________________________________


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