>And that is exactly my point. :-) The Java marketeers said "write once, >run anywhere". And, they came out with examples that included running >Java on an embedded processor built into a gold (tone) ring. And >everybody who knows what "everywhere" really means got up and left the >table. > >Too bad Sun didn't come out and say "Write once, run on any major JVM on >any OS as long as it is Windows or UNIX compatible and the hardware has >at least 64 MB of RAM and a 100 MHz processor". But, that just isn't as >good a marketing slogan as "Write once, run anywhere". To bad. I really >like Java, but that one marketing error has hurt the language more than >anything else I can think of. > > Bob Pendleton > > > I think the slogan "Write once, run anywhere reasonable. Ask someone competent what conditions are considered 'reasonable'" would fit the bill :) This is less offtopic and more of a complete derailment, but marketing always hurts the product or service (in my eyes). 90 % of marketing is lying, or dishonest. I consider a pure emotive argument dishonest, especially when the product can be compared to its peers in an objective manner. Which most products and services, if not all, can. I consider exploiting peoples emotional weaknesses to manipulate them into purchasing dishonest. I cant stand reading the corporate front that companys call websites, with their meaningless slogans, and feel good pictures. I dont like being pandered too or treated like someone who just needs XYZ to make their life better. As you can probably guess, I hate advertising as represented by the current examples in all media. I have little pity for those who allow the dishonest media to effect them, to produce the desired results, but I understand that its hard work trying to ignore the barrage. </rant> Jake -- Named after its country of origin 'England', English is a little known dialect used by up to 1.5 billion non-Americans worldwide. Some interesting but obviously incorrect features of the language include: - queues of people - wonderful coloUrs - the useful metal aluminIum - the exotic herbs (h-urbs), basil (ba-zil) and oregano (o-re-gaa-no) - specialiSed books called 'dictionaries' that tell you how to spell words correctly Many people using this bizarre gutter speak also subscribe to the pagan belief that water freezes at 0 degrees and that distances should be measured in the forbidden mathematical system of base-10... --------------------- To unsubscribe go to http://gameprogrammer.com/mailinglist.html