Are you aware of this one? http://forum.e-officedirect.com/forum.exe?forumname=Fruityloops_LoopTalk There's also some good FL info at www.em411.com More links as I find them (my bookmarks are a *mess*) !! G. --- Spam not unto me! I shall decode thy email headers and trace thy routes, and smite them, and I shall pursue thy provider and thy provider's upstream link. Yea, unto the seventh generation shall I pursue thy links, and thou shalt spam no more.