Re: [foxboro] Historical Alarms

From: dirk.pauwels@xxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:27:05 +0100
Hi Alex,
Thanks for the info, I'll check with the local sales rep

Kind regards

Dirk



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Dirk

Re: No idea on the price of the Foxboro shelving tool, probably only 
affordable for the big guys as usual?

Pricing is per Control Station supported. You can get the pricing (list 
and your company's if you have a discount) from BuyAutomation.com. Here 
are the part numbers and the US list (list prices vary by country and you 
may have a company discount as well):

Q0303AB          AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.1:  5 CSs          $ 
5,800.00
Q0303AC          AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.2: 15 CSs $16,182.00
Q0303AD          AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.3: 25 CSs $26,042.00
Q0303AL          AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.4: 50 CSs $46,342.00
Q0303AM          AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg 5:100 CSs $60,842.00
Q0303AN          AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg 6:150 CSs $70,702.00
Q0303AP          AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg 7:200 CSs $76,502.00

You can find the number of control stations in your system by counting the 
lines in /etc/cplns. If you have multiple systems in your plant, you can 
combine them (could /et/cplns on each CSA server) to make a larger 
purchase.


Regards,
 
Alex Johnson
Invensys Operations Management
10900 Equity Drive
Houston, TX 77041
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:19 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] Historical Alarms

Hi Jack,
Combination of both would be nice, we have Foxray, which is a great help 
in analyzing alarms, but we also need a shelving tool so our operators can 

"park" troublesome alarms for a while (under certain conditions and with 
supervisor approval).  So I'm also interested in the shelving tool 
experiances and alternatives.
No idea on the price of the Foxboro shelving tool, probably only 
affordable for the big guys as usual? 

 
Kind regards 

Dirk



I agree Foxboro's Alarm Shelving Tool would be extremely useful at most 
sites. During initial Foxboro installation, most systems have nearly every 

alarm (to include status) possible turned on and they usually stay that 
way unless considerable man-time is put into taming them down or making 
them smarter. Although I have no experience with the Alarm Shelving Tool, 
I can see that it would tremendously help tame down alarms and actually 
make them much more useful and reliable. However, Alarm Shelving Tool 
(like most things useful) isn't cheap and requires a lot of Foxboro and 
local site man-power time to implement. FoxRay isn't exactly free either, 
but I don't think it is as expensive as the Alarm Shelving Tool when all 
factors are considered (especially man-hours to achieve usefulness). My 
recommendation of FoxRay (a different product from Alarm Shelving 
entirely) is due to the fact it is more immediately useful for all kinds 
of Foxboro data to be used by local Engineers/Technic
 ians to improve their systems to include alarm monitoring somewhat. The 
main point is that the Foxboro Alarm Shelving Tool is primarily focused on 

reducing alarms and making them more useful, whereas FoxRay is all about 
collecting and historizing all kinds of Foxboro data. Both are great 
products with different functions.




 
 
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