Re: [foxboro] Historical Alarms

  • From: "Perez, Claudio" <CPEREZ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:41:32 -0300

May be worth to implement in-house shelving strategies according to plant 
states. It will be cheaper, you wil have full control and the knowledge 
incorporated in the analysis process is huge.
We have choosen that way and have learned a lot.

 
Regards

 
Claudio A. Pérez
Ing. Confiabilidad en Instrumentación y Sistemas de Control 
Profertil S.A.
Tel: (54) 291 4598139
email: cperez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www: www.profertil.com.ar

-----Mensaje original-----
De: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En 
nombre de Johnson, Alex P (IOM)
Enviado el: Martes, 20 de Diciembre de 2011 14:30
Para: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: Re: [foxboro] Historical Alarms

Dirk

Re: No idea on the price of the Foxboro shelving tool, probably only affordable 
for the big guys as usual?

Pricing is per Control Station supported. You can get the pricing (list and 
your company's if you have a discount) from BuyAutomation.com. Here are the 
part numbers and the US list (list prices vary by country and you may have a 
company discount as well):

Q0303AB AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.1:  5 CSs  $ 5,800.00
Q0303AC AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.2: 15 CSs  $16,182.00
Q0303AD AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.3: 25 CSs  $26,042.00
Q0303AL AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg.4: 50 CSs  $46,342.00
Q0303AM AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg 5:100 CSs  $60,842.00
Q0303AN AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg 6:150 CSs  $70,702.00
Q0303AP AST-Alarm Shelving Tool Software Cfg 7:200 CSs  $76,502.00

You can find the number of control stations in your system by counting the 
lines in /etc/cplns. If you have multiple systems in your plant, you can 
combine them (could /et/cplns on each CSA server) to make a larger purchase.


Regards,
 
Alex Johnson
Invensys Operations Management
10900 Equity Drive
Houston, TX 77041
+1 713 329 8472 (desk)
+1 713 329 1600 (operator)
+1 713 329 1700 (Central Fax)
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-----Original Message-----
From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of dirk.pauwels@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 10:19 AM
To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [foxboro] Historical Alarms

Hi Jack,
Combination of both would be nice, we have Foxray, which is a great help in 
analyzing alarms, but we also need a shelving tool so our operators can "park" 
troublesome alarms for a while (under certain conditions and with supervisor 
approval).  So I'm also interested in the shelving tool experiances and 
alternatives.
No idea on the price of the Foxboro shelving tool, probably only affordable for 
the big guys as usual? 

 
Kind regards 

Dirk



I agree Foxboro's Alarm Shelving Tool would be extremely useful at most sites. 
During initial Foxboro installation, most systems have nearly every alarm (to 
include status) possible turned on and they usually stay that way unless 
considerable man-time is put into taming them down or making them smarter. 
Although I have no experience with the Alarm Shelving Tool, I can see that it 
would tremendously help tame down alarms and actually make them much more 
useful and reliable. However, Alarm Shelving Tool (like most things useful) 
isn't cheap and requires a lot of Foxboro and local site man-power time to 
implement. FoxRay isn't exactly free either, but I don't think it is as 
expensive as the Alarm Shelving Tool when all factors are considered 
(especially man-hours to achieve usefulness). My recommendation of FoxRay (a 
different product from Alarm Shelving
entirely) is due to the fact it is more immediately useful for all kinds of 
Foxboro data to be used by local Engineers/Technic  ians to improve their 
systems to include alarm monitoring somewhat. The main point is that the 
Foxboro Alarm Shelving Tool is primarily focused on reducing alarms and making 
them more useful, whereas FoxRay is all about collecting and historizing all 
kinds of Foxboro data. Both are great products with different functions.




 
 
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