Re: [foxboro] Foxboro I/A OPC
- From: stan <stanb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx" <tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:05:22 -0500
Well said!
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:13:32AM -1000, tjvandew@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> I'm on vacation and shouldn't be replying but this is my hot button.
> Foxboro is in the business of PROCESS CONTROL, Wonderware is in the
> business of HMI. IMHO, Foxboro is way behind in the HMI realm for both
> operational displays and configuration application interfaces.
> Wonderware was a leader in HMI. If they want to regain their position,
> I think they will have to get great at web-based interfaces. WW's game
> is sucking data is from different systems into their InSQL database and
> taking care of all the HMI issues for a host of different systems, not
> just Foxboro. I can imagine, with the speed of new processors, and a
> new MESH network that can get rid of the Carrierband/Nodebus throughput
> bottleneck, that WW will be able to grab data in virtual real-time into
> InSQL from Foxboro's Global Object Manager. With that data in hand in a
> SQL database, WW COULD serve it via a non-OS specific browser window.
> (But will they?) Only if they have someone with vision, that is smart
> enough to see the light! I've said it many times before but here it is
> again. I don't give a rats a-- how the data is being served or by what
> OS, but I can use different browsers in a host of different OS's to do
> shopping in realtime on Ebay. I can bid down to the second on any of
> their millions of items offered so don't tell me a browser can't do real
> time manipulations. Most HMI issues, (contrary to operations belief),
> do not require the techs to manipulate variables in sub-second or even
> seconds. That kind of response is built into the process controllers.
> The techs wouldn't be able to keep up if they constantly had to make
> such real time decisions. I'm sold on Mozilla Firefox but if standards
> are followed any browser might do, even the antiquated IE 6.0.
> The bigger problem here is how would Wonderware charge for their
> offering, but the other side of the story is, if they don't figure it
> out someone else, (willing to accept a smaller profit margin, will!
> That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
>
> Tom VandeWater
>
> Stan Ruth wrote:
> > Alex,
> > I think that users would expect Invensys to unify their various HMI
> > offerings (Display Manager, FoxView, Wonderware) into one software package
> > that could be used on any Windows based system, since that is the
> > direction that IPS is going. Going forward, there would be fewer HMI
> > applications to support.
> >
> >
> >
> > Stan M. Ruth, P.E.
> > Process Control Engineer
> > Huntsman Port Neches Performance Products Site
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Johnson, Alex P (IPS)" <alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 03/08/2006 08:49 PM
> > Please respond to foxboro
> >
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > cc:
> > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Foxboro I/A OPC
> >
> >
> > No news, but I am curious as to what you (and others) would expect them to
> > do and how you would expect the to work together.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Alex Johnson
> > Invensys Systems, Inc.
> > 10900 Equity Drive
> > Houston, TX 77041
> > 713.329.8472 (voice)
> > 713.329.1700 (fax)
> > 713.329.1600 (switchboard)
> > alex.johnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > Behalf Of Joe Sanguinetti
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:33 PM
> > To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [foxboro] Foxboro I/A OPC
> >
> > Any New News on Wonderware InTouch and Foxboro systems Co-existing?=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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