[etni] Fw: re: present Etni poll results

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  • Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 09:59:42 +0200

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From: "Adele Raemer and Laurie Levy" <raemer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: present Etni poll results


There is no need to do away with yearly grades - the option already exists.
It's called: externi. The testees (after they have left school) come in, sit
down, take the test - what they get, they get.

But _I_ thought our aims were to be EDUCATORS. If you didn't have the yearly
grade, why would they bother doing the classwork? Extensive reading would be
"history". You could forget about teaching literature, because why should
they do the work? In fact, all too many teachers out there would just pass
literature over, since, it's not mandatory for the yearly grade (as it IS I
have heard of many schools that turn a blind eye and do not check if
literature or extensive reading is being done, and fabricate their grades).

Doing away with yearly grades would serve to turn us into bagrut factories.
Is THAT what we want? _I_ certainly do NOT! And why is it such a problem to
make up the yearly grade, anyway? All you need to do is be organized enough
to save your grades. The Three Year Follow Up page is very helpful with
this:
http://www.mchp.gov.il/Site/Supervision/REED/Bagrut+Forms/Working+out+your+yearly+grades/Three+year+follow+up.htm

The English coordinator needs to be organized enough to get the team
together on deciding how the yearly grades are given for your school, on the
different levels
http://www.mchp.gov.il/Site/Supervision/REED/Bagrut+Forms/Working+out+your+yearly+grades/school+plan+modular.htm
(that can be done ONCE if it is done
properly) and then everybody works accordingly. Excel makes the calculations
a piece of cake (this from someone who  is dyscalculic).

Well, that's MY 2 cents on this issue. Sure - I would love to have less
administrative work to do, but the whole bagrut system (which we did NOT
have in New York) and the universities demand it - therefore, there is not
really much we (or our complaining) will be able to change on this issue -
so we may as well make the best of it.

Adele


Linda wrote:
>I'd like to start another poll: doing away with giving yearly grades
>("magen" grades).. just giving a grade for the report card, which is
>separate from and not connected to their bagrut exam grade. That's the way
>it was in New York.. wow, our teachers didn't know how lucky they were!
>Anyone??????


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