[elky] Re: Heads for Monte - Happy Thanksgiving
- From: John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:12:40 -0600
I am trying not to have downtime. I DON'T WANT THE ELKY IN THE SALT AGAIN.
That's why I want to have everything, and swap fresh heads, rather than take
the heads of, and wait for them to be done, then put them back on
I am getting ready to order the gaskets. I want to get the lockup control
foremost. Don't need to burn up another tranny.
I will be getting the same controller I had in the Elky before going back to
computer. It worked well, and I could select the speed that it changed to
lockup. Can you get this one
<http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70244/>Chris?
I have a cooler to put in, but I'll wait till I swap the nose to the new
one. Besides, heat is not something I am worried about in the next couple
months.
JC
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Chris Lindh <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> Wish I was closer, I'd be glad to help. Definitely plan well in
> advance and prepared for downtime. I'd make a spreadsheet of the
> parts needed, fluids, steps, etc... Aren?
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > It would be a good one for the students. But because you would have to
> set
> > the valves again, I don't think that will happen. It is a tricky enough
> job
> > to do that, and the students don't have a historically good result doing
> > that (from what Tom says). Hell, I am not that good at it, and that
> worries
> > me enough. Leaving it in their hands..... well, I would rather have
> myself
> > to blame.
> >
> > I changed damn near all the gaskets except the heads when I had that
> engine
> > out shortly after getting the car. Wish I would have done it, but it ran
> too
> > well. The valve guides have started to go bad over the last year or so,
> and
> > are getting measurably worse very quickly. Fouling the plugs from the oil
> is
> > making it harder to start. In the winter, on a -14 day, that is really
> gonna
> > count.
> >
> > You are right, it's no small job. I can tear down the front and drain
> fluids
> > in the evening, then have help for the heavy bolts so my back doesn't
> take a
> > hit. Then there is lifting them out and putting them back on, with the
> > torquing of the bolts being the major thing I want to avoid with the
> back. I
> > just remember doing that on the Elky, and I really felt it. Page 2 shows
> the
> > same casting numbers as the ones I just got, going on the Elky Now with
> the
> > dished pistons, it never ran as good as the old 305 heads I took off that
> > motor. I guess I need to see what the pistons are on the Monte. It would
> be
> > what ever the Mexican Grate Motor was born with.
> >
> > My back is much better than it was before surgery, believe it or not, and
> I
> > do the therapy exercises after the walks, so I may be in better shape
> with
> > the muscles than I was before. I still don't want to push my luck, it's
> just
> > not worth it.
> >
> > Can't keep a Hot Rodder out of the garage though!
> >
> > JC
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Chris Lindh <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Is changing the valve stem seals on the car a possibility? That would
> >> be a good project for the students!
> >>
> >> Then you'd have to figure out the external leaks. It just seems like
> >> a head swap is no small project. I'd prefer to have a fresh engine
> >> then swap the whole assembly out.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Robert Adams <elcam84@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >> > Sounds like the engine builder didn't goop up
> the
> >> > bolts before putting them in cause those go straight into water
> jackets.
> >> >
> >> > The mid 70s heads are nothing special but the
> >> > current
> >> > ones are a little better in some ways. But I doubt you would notice a
> >> > difference either way. Maybe if the 70s ones had bigger valves put in
> >> > there.
> >> >
> >> > I'm wanting to make a trip out to Harbor
> >> > freight...
> >> > 25% off coupon but they changed the coupon rules. Used to be able to
> use
> >> > them on anything including sale prices, not anymore.
> >> > Robert Adams
> >> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:18 AM, John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I have some info on the heads I have:
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >> 350 Free Heads From Jeff Snow:
> >> >> "624" – 462624, used mid 70's and up on 350 engines, they came with
> >> >> 1.94/1.50" or 2.02/1.60" valves, had 76CC
> >> >> combustion chambers, DO have accessory holes, intake port volume is
> >> >> 161CC's, exhaust port volume is 62CC's. These
> >> >> heads are made of thinner castings and are prone to cracking.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Heads on Monte Carlo now: 33417369 are mid 90's made in Mexico Crate
> >> >> Motor
> >> >> heads.
> >> >> 1.94" Intake valve , 1.50" Exhaust Valve 76cc Combustion Chamber 7
> Bolt
> >> >> style Exhaust Flange
> >> >> heavier castings, but Mexico metal. These are leaking anti freeze and
> >> >> oil
> >> >> at the moment, but it doesn't appear to me mixing with each other in
> >> >> the
> >> >> engine. Crankcase and radiator are both clean. Could be outside bolts
> >> >> leaking or the gasket itself, or a crack.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom is going to be checking the casting numbers on a set at the
> school
> >> >> that has been sitting around.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any thoughts?
> >> >>
> >> >> I am going out to the frig in the garage to get the turkey and pop it
> >> >> in
> >> >> the oven. Cindy is working almost all day today. Everyone is out of
> >> >> town,
> >> >> and she is taking care of their animals! Great day for her.....
> holiday
> >> >> rates too.
> >> >>
>
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