[elky] Re: Heads for Monte - Happy Thanksgiving
- From: Chris Lindh <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:48:29 -0500
Wish I was closer, I'd be glad to help. Definitely plan well in
advance and prepared for downtime. I'd make a spreadsheet of the
parts needed, fluids, steps, etc... Aren?
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:24 AM, John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> It would be a good one for the students. But because you would have to set
> the valves again, I don't think that will happen. It is a tricky enough job
> to do that, and the students don't have a historically good result doing
> that (from what Tom says). Hell, I am not that good at it, and that worries
> me enough. Leaving it in their hands..... well, I would rather have myself
> to blame.
>
> I changed damn near all the gaskets except the heads when I had that engine
> out shortly after getting the car. Wish I would have done it, but it ran too
> well. The valve guides have started to go bad over the last year or so, and
> are getting measurably worse very quickly. Fouling the plugs from the oil is
> making it harder to start. In the winter, on a -14 day, that is really gonna
> count.
>
> You are right, it's no small job. I can tear down the front and drain fluids
> in the evening, then have help for the heavy bolts so my back doesn't take a
> hit. Then there is lifting them out and putting them back on, with the
> torquing of the bolts being the major thing I want to avoid with the back. I
> just remember doing that on the Elky, and I really felt it. Page 2 shows the
> same casting numbers as the ones I just got, going on the Elky Now with the
> dished pistons, it never ran as good as the old 305 heads I took off that
> motor. I guess I need to see what the pistons are on the Monte. It would be
> what ever the Mexican Grate Motor was born with.
>
> My back is much better than it was before surgery, believe it or not, and I
> do the therapy exercises after the walks, so I may be in better shape with
> the muscles than I was before. I still don't want to push my luck, it's just
> not worth it.
>
> Can't keep a Hot Rodder out of the garage though!
>
> JC
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Chris Lindh <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Is changing the valve stem seals on the car a possibility? That would
>> be a good project for the students!
>>
>> Then you'd have to figure out the external leaks. It just seems like
>> a head swap is no small project. I'd prefer to have a fresh engine
>> then swap the whole assembly out.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Robert Adams <elcam84@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Sounds like the engine builder didn't goop up the
>> > bolts before putting them in cause those go straight into water jackets.
>> >
>> > The mid 70s heads are nothing special but the
>> > current
>> > ones are a little better in some ways. But I doubt you would notice a
>> > difference either way. Maybe if the 70s ones had bigger valves put in
>> > there.
>> >
>> > I'm wanting to make a trip out to Harbor
>> > freight...
>> > 25% off coupon but they changed the coupon rules. Used to be able to use
>> > them on anything including sale prices, not anymore.
>> > Robert Adams
>> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:18 AM, John Christensen <johncgg@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have some info on the heads I have:
>> >>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> 350 Free Heads From Jeff Snow:
>> >> "624" – 462624, used mid 70's and up on 350 engines, they came with
>> >> 1.94/1.50" or 2.02/1.60" valves, had 76CC
>> >> combustion chambers, DO have accessory holes, intake port volume is
>> >> 161CC's, exhaust port volume is 62CC's. These
>> >> heads are made of thinner castings and are prone to cracking.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>
>> >> Heads on Monte Carlo now: 33417369 are mid 90's made in Mexico Crate
>> >> Motor
>> >> heads.
>> >> 1.94" Intake valve , 1.50" Exhaust Valve 76cc Combustion Chamber 7 Bolt
>> >> style Exhaust Flange
>> >> heavier castings, but Mexico metal. These are leaking anti freeze and
>> >> oil
>> >> at the moment, but it doesn't appear to me mixing with each other in
>> >> the
>> >> engine. Crankcase and radiator are both clean. Could be outside bolts
>> >> leaking or the gasket itself, or a crack.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>
>> >> Tom is going to be checking the casting numbers on a set at the school
>> >> that has been sitting around.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts?
>> >>
>> >> I am going out to the frig in the garage to get the turkey and pop it
>> >> in
>> >> the oven. Cindy is working almost all day today. Everyone is out of
>> >> town,
>> >> and she is taking care of their animals! Great day for her..... holiday
>> >> rates too.
>> >>
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