oeps I failed to paste
Hi Jan — We will send you the list of attendees who have registered for
your workshop ahead of time. That way you can email them and ask them to
download plugins etc. before they arrive.
There is WiFi at the workshop venue, but it’s impossible to tell how it
will be performing that day. And even with good connectivity, it’s a
problem if dozens of people are downloading at the same time.
Op 27/05/2016 om 15:28 schreef Jan Baeyens:
I got this answer on my wifi question.µSo no I don't know yet.
I will tell you as soon as I know
Jantje
Op 27/05/2016 om 10:55 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
I have got one from a colleague of mine, so yes, we do have one. I have to give this a try, which I plan to do during the upcoming weekend.
I will probably be able to also verify if it can handle 3/4 connections at the same time... I don't expect this little thing to go any better than that, but it should be sufficient... Do you already know how many attendees are expected for the workshop?
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
@Roberto
Do you already own one of these?
Op 25/05/2016 om 12:46 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
@Jan I might have a cheaper solution... what if I bring one of
these?
http://www.emtec-international.com/it-eu/power-connect
I'm quite sure it doesn't support a lot of concurrent
connections, but it might be simpler than rotating usb keys...
@Marcelo will you have some time to spare to work on the
presentation aesthetics? I'll lend you an hand if you wish me
around....
Regards,
Roberto
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:34 AM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
oeps pressed send to quickly
Got an answer of Eclipsecon. We'd better take sticks. Maybe
I can have some sticks made with a logo on ....
Wauw lots of feedback I like it.
See my input between the input
Op 24/05/2016 om 12:52 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
Marcelo I believe you deserve to be in there, you did aI am 100% with Roberto here.
great job, something none of us would have been capable to do.
If Marcelo wants to and has time, please. But let me work
I would also suggest Marcelo reviews the graphical aspect
of the presentation so to give it a better first
impression: would you agree Jan? Obviously if Marcelo can
spare some more time for this...
some more on the input first.
I asked the question about internet. Wifi is very load
If there will be WiFi (I hardly believe there will not be)
then I would suggest to use prezi.com <http://prezi.com>
for the presentation and I can work with Marcelo on this
once the contents are solid (here is an example
<http://prezi.com/lsrekxxxyhnj/?utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=copy&rc=ex0share>
of a prezi presentation). That obviously unless EclipseCon
haven't asked you to specifically use their template (which
I believe they did).
But also I wouldn't assume there is going to be WiFi
(unless they gave you this info), so we either bring some
USB pen drives or any other mean to distribute the plugin.
dependent. If needed I can bring my 16 port Gigabit switch.
Well ... you want the public to say something yust to get
Regarding the presentation contents it looks like a
checklist, which I believe it is good for a workshop, but
there are some points I don't understand or where I can
suggest improvements:
1. why are we asking for their competencies on
C++/Eclipse/Arduino/Eclipse? I mean, will it make any
difference for the workshop? Are you planning to tailor
it depending on the audience knowledge? Speaking at
EclipseCon I hardly believe there will be someone not
knowing eclipse :-D
the talk going. I also want to confirm my assumptions. Also
it might point out special cases. For instance assume 2
people have never seen eclipse before (or at least cdt) and
all others have. Then it would be a good idea to move them
together close to my assistent as they will have it hard to
catch up. :-)
I'll change it to colors
1. the comparison in table format doesn't provide a sense
of confidence because we are reporting numbers without
providing any trusted source backing them up. If we
want to give a comparison table of some sort we can use
a semaphore (green, yellow, red), but the numbers are
too much IMHO
The point of the table is: why go away from the Arduino IDE.
1. If we run a comparison, shouldn't we also include the
"semi official arduino plugin"? I know it might raise
some competition, but I don't think just ignoring its
existance will be beneficial....
Not "you know this is a far better option"
As you know I am autistic (sory Marcelo to bring this so
1. I would avoid using both V3 and Toddler together: if we
go for codenames (which I like) then Toddler is the
official release name, corresponding to an internal
only version number. Using the two together
communicates we are still transistioning or haven't
decided yet
cold to you) I grew up with version numbers and though I
prefer names to numbers the numbers do imply a order which I
mis when thinking about arduino. Was juno before or after
neon? To help both I prefer to state something like "V3
nicknamed Toddler" from time to time.
Indeed. I want to use my webleds example for that.
1. I believe we should bring a project reporting a valid,
real life, representation of which benefits Sloeber
brings when you decide to scale up in arduino
development, when a firmare gets bigger than just one
.ino file. That might be shown at the end of the
workshop or when we describe the features, to
practically demonstrate how refactor, code browsing and
the other cool stuff works.
That is why I ask "Who has worked with the Arduino IDE". If
1. In case we have many people completely ignoring what
ArduinoIDE is, might it be usefull to open and show
that a bit?
they all say they do why bother.
So, all together, I believe it's a good decision to startFeel free. I'll try to finish the content part this week. So
with the preliminary tasks first (so you can speak while
they are still downloading), but I would rather change some
titles:
* *Preparation* (or *Meanwhile I get you bored* if you
want to be ironic)
* *Who are we?*
* *What is Sloeber?*
* *Let's play!*
* *The cool stuff* (Advanced)
you can prezi your stuff in.
OK
In the *What is Sloeber?* section I would mention a little
bit of history about the plugin (version1, version 2,
etc...) to communicate this is not a brand new and unstable
project, but something who has already gone through
multiple iterations.
I'll let you do so :-)
I also suggest each one of us, in his own page, publishes
some connecting information (twitter, email, blog?) to
demonstrate we are there for real.
I would also add a final page with all the relevant links
and urls (mailing list, twitter, patreon, etc...) where you
can also explain the way the project is managed, the fact
the project stays alive under two conditions: our time
availability and your patreon supporters.
Oeps sorry. And I only coded some code. Do yourself a
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:16 AM, Marcelo Limori
<x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My two cents:
- The name's Marcelo (Limori is the last name). But
there's no need to include my name in there, I just
drew a logo and splash screen. :)
favour, don't leave it to me to fill something in there
(grin grin grin )
Yes. That is on the last slide "still to do"
- You mention at some point that it is compatible with
ino files. I would add (as it's a big selling point to
me personally) that the structure of an Eclipse project
is 100% retro-compatible with the structure of a
project written with the Arduino IDE. So if at some
point in the future, for some strange reason, you want
to go back and compile with the Arduino stuff, you can.
Having the same code in Arduino ide as in the plugin
Here again I think the publick will be very important. I can
- I see you will talk about this in a section, but
anyways, I'd stress very very much the auto-complete,
refactor and navigation stuff that we all know very
well. In my experience beginners (to programming at
least, people that never coded with a full IDE) don't
seem to comprehend how much better your life can be if
you can just Ctrl-click a method and jump to its code
directly or Ctrl-space to see a list of parameters in a
function call.
imagine the CDT people are interested to come and look at
how we build upon their plugin. In that case standard
eclipse or cdt content is not important.
But it should be on "possible content" slides. Note it is a
workshop so there will be improvisation and time to quickly
add some stuff. But the more we are prepared the better.
As it is a eclipse conference I think this is a well known
- You might want to briefly touch the "workspace"
concept as it's also a thing beginners seem to have
trouble with.
idea. If they never heard about it they should have in the
morning :-)
On Mon, 23 May 2016 18:33:13 -0300, Jan Baeyens
<jan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi
attached is the workshop presentation I'm working
on. The first part is
based on previous work so is ok (content wise) the
last part is still
"expanding".
I have a slide for each of us to represent
yourself. I advise not to
leave it to me to make a picture of you. :-) I
guess you all know what
that would look like.
If there is something you feel that is missing or
needs more attention
... just share your thoughts.
Best regards
Jantje
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