Ok, we can use what I have borrowed from my colleague. Here is a screenshot
with my 32Gb pen drive attached
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
oeps I failed to paste
Hi Jan — We will send you the list of attendees who have registered for
your workshop ahead of time. That way you can email them and ask them to
download plugins etc. before they arrive.
There is WiFi at the workshop venue, but it’s impossible to tell how it
will be performing that day. And even with good connectivity, it’s a
problem if dozens of people are downloading at the same time.
Op 27/05/2016 om 15:28 schreef Jan Baeyens:
I got this answer on my wifi question.µSo no I don't know yet.
I will tell you as soon as I know
Jantje
Op 27/05/2016 om 10:55 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
I have got one from a colleague of mine, so yes, we do have one. I have to
give this a try, which I plan to do during the upcoming weekend.
I will probably be able to also verify if it can handle 3/4 connections at
the same time... I don't expect this little thing to go any better than
that, but it should be sufficient... Do you already know how many attendees
are expected for the workshop?
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
@Roberto
Do you already own one of these?
Op 25/05/2016 om 12:46 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
@Jan I might have a cheaper solution... what if I bring one of these?
<http://www.emtec-international.com/it-eu/power-connect>
http://www.emtec-international.com/it-eu/power-connect
I'm quite sure it doesn't support a lot of concurrent connections, but it
might be simpler than rotating usb keys...
@Marcelo will you have some time to spare to work on the presentation
aesthetics? I'll lend you an hand if you wish me around....
Regards,
Roberto
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:34 AM, Jan Baeyens < <jan@xxxxxxxxxx>
jan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
oeps pressed send to quickly
Got an answer of Eclipsecon. We'd better take sticks. Maybe I can have
some sticks made with a logo on ....
Wauw lots of feedback I like it.
See my input between the input
Op 24/05/2016 om 12:52 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
Marcelo I believe you deserve to be in there, you did a great job,
something none of us would have been capable to do.
I am 100% with Roberto here.
I would also suggest Marcelo reviews the graphical aspect of the
presentation so to give it a better first impression: would you agree Jan?
Obviously if Marcelo can spare some more time for this...
If Marcelo wants to and has time, please. But let me work some more on
the input first.
If there will be WiFi (I hardly believe there will not be) then I would
suggest to use prezi.com for the presentation and I can work with
Marcelo on this once the contents are solid (here is an example
<http://prezi.com/lsrekxxxyhnj/?utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=copy&rc=ex0share>
of a prezi presentation). That obviously unless EclipseCon haven't asked
you to specifically use their template (which I believe they did).
But also I wouldn't assume there is going to be WiFi (unless they gave
you this info), so we either bring some USB pen drives or any other mean to
distribute the plugin.
I asked the question about internet. Wifi is very load dependent. If
needed I can bring my 16 port Gigabit switch.
Regarding the presentation contents it looks like a checklist, which I
believe it is good for a workshop, but there are some points I don't
understand or where I can suggest improvements:
1. why are we asking for their competencies on
C++/Eclipse/Arduino/Eclipse? I mean, will it make any difference for the
workshop? Are you planning to tailor it depending on the audience
knowledge? Speaking at EclipseCon I hardly believe there will be someone
not knowing eclipse :-D
Well ... you want the public to say something yust to get the talk
going. I also want to confirm my assumptions. Also it might point out
special cases. For instance assume 2 people have never seen eclipse before
(or at least cdt) and all others have. Then it would be a good idea to move
them together close to my assistent as they will have it hard to catch up.
:-)
1. the comparison in table format doesn't provide a sense of
confidence because we are reporting numbers without providing any trusted
source backing them up. If we want to give a comparison table of some
sort
we can use a semaphore (green, yellow, red), but the numbers are too much
IMHO
I'll change it to colors
1. If we run a comparison, shouldn't we also include the "semi
official arduino plugin"? I know it might raise some competition, but I
don't think just ignoring its existance will be beneficial....
The point of the table is: why go away from the Arduino IDE. Not "you
know this is a far better option"
1. I would avoid using both V3 and Toddler together: if we go for
codenames (which I like) then Toddler is the official release name,
corresponding to an internal only version number. Using the two together
communicates we are still transistioning or haven't decided yet
As you know I am autistic (sory Marcelo to bring this so cold to you) I
grew up with version numbers and though I prefer names to numbers the
numbers do imply a order which I mis when thinking about arduino. Was juno
before or after neon? To help both I prefer to state something like "V3
nicknamed Toddler" from time to time.
1. I believe we should bring a project reporting a valid, real life,
representation of which benefits Sloeber brings when you decide to scale
up
in arduino development, when a firmare gets bigger than just one .ino
file.
That might be shown at the end of the workshop or when we describe the
features, to practically demonstrate how refactor, code browsing and the
other cool stuff works.
Indeed. I want to use my webleds example for that.
1. In case we have many people completely ignoring what ArduinoIDE
is, might it be usefull to open and show that a bit?
That is why I ask "Who has worked with the Arduino IDE". If they all say
they do why bother.
So, all together, I believe it's a good decision to start with the
preliminary tasks first (so you can speak while they are still
downloading), but I would rather change some titles:
- *Preparation* (or *Meanwhile I get you bored* if you want to be
ironic)
- *Who are we?*
- *What is Sloeber?*
- *Let's play!*
- *The cool stuff* (Advanced)
Feel free. I'll try to finish the content part this week. So you can
prezi your stuff in.
In the *What is Sloeber?* section I would mention a little bit of
history about the plugin (version1, version 2, etc...) to communicate this
is not a brand new and unstable project, but something who has already gone
through multiple iterations.
OK
I also suggest each one of us, in his own page, publishes some
connecting information (twitter, email, blog?) to demonstrate we are there
for real.
I would also add a final page with all the relevant links and urls
(mailing list, twitter, patreon, etc...) where you can also explain the way
the project is managed, the fact the project stays alive under two
conditions: our time availability and your patreon supporters.
I'll let you do so :-)
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:16 AM, Marcelo Limori < <x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx>
x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My two cents:Oeps sorry. And I only coded some code. Do yourself a favour, don't
- The name's Marcelo (Limori is the last name). But there's no need to
include my name in there, I just drew a logo and splash screen. :)
leave it to me to fill something in there (grin grin grin )
- You mention at some point that it is compatible with ino files. IYes. That is on the last slide "still to do"
would add (as it's a big selling point to me personally) that the structure
of an Eclipse project is 100% retro-compatible with the structure of a
project written with the Arduino IDE. So if at some point in the future,
for some strange reason, you want to go back and compile with the Arduino
stuff, you can.
Having the same code in Arduino ide as in the plugin
- I see you will talk about this in a section, but anyways, I'd stressHere again I think the publick will be very important. I can imagine the
very very much the auto-complete, refactor and navigation stuff that we all
know very well. In my experience beginners (to programming at least, people
that never coded with a full IDE) don't seem to comprehend how much better
your life can be if you can just Ctrl-click a method and jump to its code
directly or Ctrl-space to see a list of parameters in a function call.
CDT people are interested to come and look at how we build upon their
plugin. In that case standard eclipse or cdt content is not important.
But it should be on "possible content" slides. Note it is a workshop so
there will be improvisation and time to quickly add some stuff. But the
more we are prepared the better.
- You might want to briefly touch the "workspace" concept as it's also
a thing beginners seem to have trouble with.
As it is a eclipse conference I think this is a well known idea. If they
never heard about it they should have in the morning :-)
On Mon, 23 May 2016 18:33:13 -0300, Jan Baeyens < <jan@xxxxxxxxxx>
jan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi
attached is the workshop presentation I'm working on. The first part is
based on previous work so is ok (content wise) the last part is still
"expanding".
I have a slide for each of us to represent yourself. I advise not to
leave it to me to make a picture of you. :-) I guess you all know what
that would look like.
If there is something you feel that is missing or needs more attention
... just share your thoughts.
Best regards
Jantje
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