[eclipse-arduino-dev] Re: arduino eclipse plugin

  • From: Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: eclipse-arduino-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 15:53:59 +0200

I don't think calling the software EvilCreature or EC or Sloeber is a good idea.

For me we are still at eclino


Op 19/05/2016 om 13:45 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:

I'm one of those who get really attached to animals... I feel sorry for your loss...

I agree about naming the software after your evil creature... If it's one of those unpronounceable Nordic names, EC or EvilCreature is fine with me!

Il giovedì 19 maggio 2016, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> ha scritto:

    That is 3 votes for eclino

    Marcelo, do you like eclino? (don't feel pressured to say yes.) ;-)


    Evil creature has been going to the doctor last month every week
    for antibiotics. Then all was ok and then back to skinny cat. So I
    put her at the doctor for observation and anti biotic. The doctor
    called this morning to tell me evil creature has "cat aids".

    After internal discussion we decided to end the pain of "evil
    creature"


    Op 19/05/2016 om 13:19 schreef Wim Jongman:
    Dah, you stabbed her once to many did you?

    I like *Eclino*

    Everything with yam is yaml alike

    On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jan@xxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

        yamIDE (yet another mcu IDE)

        For those interested. With pain in the hart, "Evil creature"
        is no longer.


        Op 18/05/2016 om 23:36 schreef Wim Jongman:
        Totally different industry, should not be  a problem.

        Cheers,

        Wim

        On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jan@xxxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:

            I like Eclino as well.

            unfortunately google does return quite some hits on it.


            Op 18/05/2016 om 20:44 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
            :-) No
            Arduclipse OR Eclino

            On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Wim Jongman
            <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx
            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx');>>
            wrote:

                *ArduinoEclipse*
                *EclipseArduino
                *


                Arduclipseclino?





                On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Roberto Lo Giacco
                <rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx
                <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx');>>
                wrote:

                    *ArduinoEclipse*
                    *EclipseArduino
                    *

                    On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Marcelo Limori
                    <x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx
                    <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx');>>
                    wrote:

                        And you didn't see the list I came up with. :D

                        2016-05-18 14:38 GMT-03:00 Jan Baeyens
                        <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                        <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jan@xxxxxxxxxx');>>:

                            rofl

                            Sounds like most names I read are crap ;-)


                            Op 18/05/2016 om 19:11 schreef Marcelo
                            Limori:
                            Maybe you could ask on the Arduino
                            forums. Or throw a small contest
                            perhaps. That way you get ideas and
                            promote the thing at the same time.

                            2016-05-18 12:21 GMT-03:00 Jan Baeyens
                            <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                            <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jan@xxxxxxxxxx');>>:

                                brilIDE (briljant ide)

                                Op 18/05/2016 om 13:15 schreef Wim
                                Jongman:


                                Solide - Soldering, IDE and quality

                                On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM,
                                Roberto Lo Giacco
                                <rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx
                                
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx');>>
                                wrote:

                                    Keep throwing names lads,
                                    something will come...

                                      * Euclide (*E*clipse for
                                        *M*icro *C*ontro*L*ler
                                        *IDE*, famous greek
                                        mathematician)
                                      * NitrIDE (Nitro seemed a
                                        cool name, banging....)
                                      * EpoxIDE (also epoxy glue
                                        has somewhat to do with
                                        makers movement.... let's
                                        say we glue together
                                        micro controllers
                                        developement?)
                                      * Identiality (the IDE for
                                        people??? Don't know,
                                        seemed cool when it came
                                        to my mind)
                                      * SilicIDE (silicon devices
                                        IDE?)
                                      * BlueIDE (blue is the
                                        common colour between
                                        eclipse and arduino
                                        palettes.....?!? I know,
                                        it's getting tough even
                                        to explain....)
                                      * Idetached
                                        (..........!?!..............
                                        don't know)
                                      * Idexterity (even
                                        sillier... I know, I know)


                                    Keep them flowing....

                                    On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:58
                                    PM, Jan Baeyens
                                    <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                    
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jan@xxxxxxxxxx');>>
                                    wrote:

                                        I really do not know what
                                        to go for as a name.

                                        it is one of these (not
                                        so rare) things I'm not
                                        good at. I'd really would
                                        like a disicion as 7 juli
                                        is comming closer and closer.
                                        But I don't know.

                                        What I think: It is a
                                        good idea to drop the
                                        name Arduino (think about
                                        Arduino and Genuino)
                                        A proper name (not a
                                        descriptive text) is the
                                        way to go.

                                        My brainstorm gets to

                                        futide (resistance is
                                        futile and then ide)

                                        wromjai (mix of ja wi ro ma )
                                        SeePeePeeMCUIDE (cpp mcu ide)
                                        trueWholeIDE (from
                                        through hole ide)

                                        CUICIDE (in use :-( )
                                        picolide (seem to be some
                                        chemical)
                                        picoide (pico seems to be
                                        a programming language so
                                        picoide exists)
                                        jawiro (jan wim roberto
                                        :-( already in use)


                                        Op 15/05/2016 om 17:27
                                        schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
                                        Little reminder about
                                        Eclipse name usage rules
                                        
https://eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php#ProperEclipse

                                        Actually I believe the
                                        correct naming, if we
                                        wish to go for the
                                        /edition/ thing would be
                                        Arduino IDE, Eclipse
                                        Edition (note the comma)
                                        which makes us
                                        infringe/collide with
                                        the Arduino IDE...

                                        Let's brainstorm this,
                                        shall we?

                                        We are here talking
                                        about a microcontroller
                                        development environment,
                                        based on eclipse which
                                        includes parts of the
                                        Arduino software
                                        platform, but goes
                                        further than just
                                        Arduino micros.

                                          * µIDE (with µ being
                                            the greek letter for
                                            micro... hard to
                                            represent in non
                                            UTF8 contexts, it
                                            would become uIDE)
                                          * microDEV (is this
                                            somewhat pretentious?)
                                          * AISA
                                            (Ambiente Integrato di
                                            Sviluppo per
                                            Arduino, italian for
                                            Arduino IDE)
                                          * Beyond IDE (meaning
                                            beyond Arduino and
                                            Eclipse)
                                          * Avatar (I actually
                                            don't know why)
                                          * Pathfinder (well,
                                            they use Mars, this
                                            was the name of the
                                            most known probe
                                            landing on mars....
                                            probably better used
                                            as codename for one
                                            of our releases)
                                          * Aride (ARduino IDE,
                                            in Italian it means
                                            /arid/, plural and
                                            feminine)

                                        I know, many of the
                                        above are pretty shit,
                                        but if we go for
                                        brainstorming we should
                                        not be ashamed of the
                                        shittiest ideas ever,
                                        right? :-)

                                        Roberto



                                        On Sun, May 15, 2016 at
                                        1:51 PM, Jan Baeyens
                                        <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                        
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jan@xxxxxxxxxx');>>
                                        wrote:

                                            Marcelo

                                            Please don't pardon :-)

                                            There has been quite
                                            some discussion
                                            about the name yet.
                                            Here is some history
                                            for you.

                                            Historically it has
                                            been named "Arduino
                                            Eclipse Plugin" as
                                            it used to be only a
                                            plugin and because
                                            nobody bothered as
                                            we never realized it
                                            would ever be as big
                                            as it is today.

                                            Then Wim added the
                                            product. Which makes
                                            the name "Arduino
                                            Eclipse Plugin" "no
                                            longer to covers the
                                            cargo" (sorry don't
                                            know the Englsh
                                            expression)

                                            Then there is the
                                            casing (which -at
                                            simple request of
                                            Wim ;-) - I will not
                                            cover)

                                            During the
                                            discussion with
                                            Eclipse legal it was
                                            mentioned that the
                                            name might not be
                                            confirm trademark
                                            ruling. Basically
                                            legal advises to
                                            make our own name
                                            product name.

                                            Legally Eclipse
                                            allows "eclipse
                                            edition" and Arduino
                                            does not really
                                            specify what is
                                            allowed for
                                            software. But for
                                            boards "for Arduino"
                                            is allowed but "XXX
                                            Arduino" is not.

                                            IMHO "Eclipse for
                                            C++" is actually CDT
                                            which stands for
                                            "C++ development
                                            tools" like JDT
                                            stands for "Java
                                            development tools".
                                            In that trend we
                                            could call it ADT
                                            "Arduino Development
                                            tools" or MDT (MCU)
                                            or IDT (iot).

                                            Personally I do not
                                            really like this 3
                                            letter abbreviation
                                            words. But I'm
                                            democratic guy ....

                                            One of the reasons I
                                            like "Arduino IDE
                                            eclipse edition"
                                            (but I am not crazy
                                            about it) is that we
                                            could make "IDE" and
                                            "edition" really
                                            small (far smaller
                                            that you have made
                                            them on the splash)
                                            so it still looks
                                            like "Arduino
                                            eclipse" as on the
                                            current splash. So
                                            that would make the
                                            official name
                                            "Arduino IDE eclipse
                                            edition", "Arduino
                                            Eclipse" in short.

                                            I think these are
                                            the headline of the
                                            current name discussion

                                            Best regards

                                            Jantje


                                            On 14-05-16 19:22,
                                            Marcelo Limori wrote:
                                            Pardon the
                                            interruption, but
                                            wouldn't be more
                                            logical Eclipse
                                            Arduino Edition?
                                            You don't have C++
                                            Eclipse Edition,
                                            you have Eclipse
                                            for C++.

                                            2016-05-14 6:08
                                            GMT-03:00 Wim
                                            Jongman
                                            <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx
                                            
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx');>>:

                                                LMAO(BW)

                                                On Sat, May 14,
                                                2016 at 12:20
                                                AM, Jan Baeyens
                                                <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                                
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jan@xxxxxxxxxx');>>
                                                wrote:

                                                    ROFL

                                                    Yes sir




















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