[eclipse-arduino-dev] Re: arduino eclipse plugin

  • From: Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: eclipse-arduino-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:28:48 +0200

Sloeber (Software Library to program Open Electronic Boards in an Eclipse Runtime)

brilliant :-) but shouldn't it be SLOEBER as it is an abbreviation?

For me 2 for Sloeber (however it is written) and 1 for eclino


Op 19/05/2016 om 16:56 schreef Wim Jongman:

ROFL. But seriously, let's stop posting random words. Everyone can post two names. Then we can vote for the names where everyone can give three points. Either 1 point to three different names or more points to a specific name.

I propose (until someone reclaims it):

Sloeber (Software Library to program Open Electronic Boards in an Eclipse Runtime)
Eclino (Eclipse Arduino,  Thanks Roberto ;)




On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Roberto Lo Giacco <rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    I do like Sloeber...... sounds /unique/... I don't know what it
    means, but I like the way it sounds... at least the way I
    pronounce it, which is practically muting out the /e/ in the /oe/
    part.

    Also, what about completely different names:
    * Lettuce (it's fresh!)
    * Seven (my favorite number)
    * Neutrino (you know....)
    * Gluon (it's cool, it's gluish)
    * Charge (yeah, give me some!)
    * BitCharge (that's even more soft-ware)
    * NRG (pronounced as energy.... /let's power up the firmware the
    development/ as motto)
    * Mugello (motorbike famous circuit, just because I like
    motorbikes....)

    I'm not personally excited by eclino, consider my vote as a 0 (not
    a +1, not a -1) :-D

    Roberto

    On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        I don't think calling the software EvilCreature or EC or
        Sloeber is a good idea.

        For me we are still at eclino


        Op 19/05/2016 om 13:45 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
        I'm one of those who get really attached to animals... I feel
        sorry for your loss...

        I agree about naming the software after your evil creature...
        If it's one of those unpronounceable Nordic names, EC or
        EvilCreature is fine with me!

        Il giovedì 19 maggio 2016, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> ha scritto:

            That is 3 votes for eclino

            Marcelo, do you like eclino? (don't feel pressured to say
            yes.) ;-)


            Evil creature has been going to the doctor last month
            every week for antibiotics. Then all was ok and then back
            to skinny cat. So I put her at the doctor for observation
            and anti biotic. The doctor called this morning to tell
            me evil creature has "cat aids".

            After internal discussion we decided to end the pain of
            "evil creature"


            Op 19/05/2016 om 13:19 schreef Wim Jongman:
            Dah, you stabbed her once to many did you?

            I like *Eclino*

            Everything with yam is yaml alike

            On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Jan Baeyens
            <jan@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                yamIDE (yet another mcu IDE)

                For those interested. With pain in the hart, "Evil
                creature" is no longer.


                Op 18/05/2016 om 23:36 schreef Wim Jongman:
                Totally different industry, should not be a problem.

                Cheers,

                Wim

                On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Jan Baeyens
                <jan@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                    I like Eclino as well.

                    unfortunately google does return quite some
                    hits on it.


                    Op 18/05/2016 om 20:44 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
                    :-) No
                    Arduclipse OR Eclino

                    On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Wim Jongman
                    <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx
                    <mailto:wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                        *ArduinoEclipse*
                        *EclipseArduino
                        *


                        Arduclipseclino?





                        On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Roberto
                        Lo Giacco <rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx
                        <mailto:rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                            *ArduinoEclipse*
                            *EclipseArduino
                            *

                            On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:39 PM,
                            Marcelo Limori <x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx
                            <mailto:x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                                And you didn't see the list I came
                                up with. :D

                                2016-05-18 14:38 GMT-03:00 Jan
                                Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>:

                                    rofl

                                    Sounds like most names I read
                                    are crap ;-)


                                    Op 18/05/2016 om 19:11 schreef
                                    Marcelo Limori:
                                    Maybe you could ask on the
                                    Arduino forums. Or throw a
                                    small contest perhaps. That
                                    way you get ideas and promote
                                    the thing at the same time.

                                    2016-05-18 12:21 GMT-03:00
                                    Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                    <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>:

                                        brilIDE (briljant ide)

                                        Op 18/05/2016 om 13:15
                                        schreef Wim Jongman:


                                        Solide - Soldering, IDE
                                        and quality

                                        On Wed, May 18, 2016 at
                                        11:11 AM, Roberto Lo
                                        Giacco
                                        <rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx
                                        <mailto:rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx>>
                                        wrote:

                                            Keep throwing names
                                            lads, something will
                                            come...

                                              * Euclide
                                                (*E*clipse for
                                                *M*icro
                                                *C*ontro*L*ler
                                                *IDE*, famous
                                                greek mathematician)
                                              * NitrIDE (Nitro
                                                seemed a cool
                                                name, banging....)
                                              * EpoxIDE (also
                                                epoxy glue has
                                                somewhat to do
                                                with makers
                                                movement....
                                                let's say we
                                                glue together
                                                micro
                                                controllers
                                                developement?)
                                              * Identiality (the
                                                IDE for
                                                people??? Don't
                                                know, seemed
                                                cool when it
                                                came to my mind)
                                              * SilicIDE
                                                (silicon devices
                                                IDE?)
                                              * BlueIDE (blue is
                                                the common
                                                colour between
                                                eclipse and
                                                arduino
                                                palettes.....?!?
                                                I know, it's
                                                getting tough
                                                even to explain....)
                                              * Idetached
                                                (..........!?!..............
                                                don't know)
                                              * Idexterity (even
                                                sillier... I
                                                know, I know)


                                            Keep them flowing....

                                            On Tue, May 17, 2016
                                            at 10:58 PM, Jan
                                            Baeyens
                                            <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                            <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>
                                            wrote:

                                                I really do not
                                                know what to go
                                                for as a name.

                                                it is one of
                                                these (not so
                                                rare) things I'm
                                                not good at. I'd
                                                really would
                                                like a disicion
                                                as 7 juli is
                                                comming closer
                                                and closer.
                                                But I don't know.

                                                What I think: It
                                                is a good idea
                                                to drop the name
                                                Arduino (think
                                                about Arduino
                                                and Genuino)
                                                A proper name
                                                (not a
                                                descriptive
                                                text) is the way
                                                to go.

                                                My brainstorm
                                                gets to

                                                futide
                                                (resistance is
                                                futile and then ide)

                                                wromjai (mix of
                                                ja wi ro ma )
                                                SeePeePeeMCUIDE
                                                (cpp mcu ide)
                                                trueWholeIDE
                                                (from through
                                                hole ide)

                                                CUICIDE (in use
                                                :-( )
                                                picolide (seem
                                                to be some chemical)
                                                picoide (pico
                                                seems to be a
                                                programming
                                                language so
                                                picoide exists)
                                                jawiro (jan wim
                                                roberto :-(
                                                already in use)


                                                Op 15/05/2016 om
                                                17:27 schreef
                                                Roberto Lo Giacco:
                                                Little reminder
                                                about Eclipse
                                                name usage
                                                rules
                                                
https://eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php#ProperEclipse

                                                Actually I
                                                believe the
                                                correct naming,
                                                if we wish to
                                                go for the
                                                /edition/ thing
                                                would be
                                                Arduino IDE,
                                                Eclipse Edition
                                                (note the
                                                comma) which
                                                makes us
                                                infringe/collide
                                                with the
                                                Arduino IDE...

                                                Let's
                                                brainstorm
                                                this, shall we?

                                                We are here
                                                talking about a
                                                microcontroller
                                                development
                                                environment,
                                                based on
                                                eclipse which
                                                includes parts
                                                of the Arduino
                                                software
                                                platform, but
                                                goes further
                                                than just
                                                Arduino micros.

                                                  * µIDE (with
                                                    µ being the
                                                    greek
                                                    letter for
                                                    micro...
                                                    hard to
                                                    represent
                                                    in non UTF8
                                                    contexts,
                                                    it would
                                                    become uIDE)
                                                  * microDEV
                                                    (is this
                                                    somewhat
                                                    pretentious?)
                                                  * AISA
                                                    (Ambiente Integrato di
                                                    Sviluppo
                                                    per
                                                    Arduino,
                                                    italian for
                                                    Arduino IDE)
                                                  * Beyond IDE
                                                    (meaning
                                                    beyond
                                                    Arduino and
                                                    Eclipse)
                                                  * Avatar (I
                                                    actually
                                                    don't know why)
                                                  * Pathfinder
                                                    (well, they
                                                    use Mars,
                                                    this was
                                                    the name of
                                                    the most
                                                    known probe
                                                    landing on
                                                    mars....
                                                    probably
                                                    better used
                                                    as codename
                                                    for one of
                                                    our releases)
                                                  * Aride
                                                    (ARduino
                                                    IDE, in
                                                    Italian it
                                                    means
                                                    /arid/,
                                                    plural and
                                                    feminine)

                                                I know, many of
                                                the above are
                                                pretty shit,
                                                but if we go
                                                for
                                                brainstorming
                                                we should not
                                                be ashamed of
                                                the shittiest
                                                ideas ever,
                                                right? :-)

                                                Roberto



                                                On Sun, May 15,
                                                2016 at 1:51
                                                PM, Jan Baeyens
                                                <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                                <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>
                                                wrote:

                                                    Marcelo

                                                    Please
                                                    don't
                                                    pardon :-)

                                                    There has
                                                    been quite
                                                    some
                                                    discussion
                                                    about the
                                                    name yet.
                                                    Here is
                                                    some
                                                    history for
                                                    you.

                                                    Historically
                                                    it has been
                                                    named
                                                    "Arduino
                                                    Eclipse
                                                    Plugin" as
                                                    it used to
                                                    be only a
                                                    plugin and
                                                    because
                                                    nobody
                                                    bothered as
                                                    we never
                                                    realized it
                                                    would ever
                                                    be as big
                                                    as it is today.

                                                    Then Wim
                                                    added the
                                                    product.
                                                    Which makes
                                                    the name
                                                    "Arduino
                                                    Eclipse
                                                    Plugin" "no
                                                    longer to
                                                    covers the
                                                    cargo"
                                                    (sorry
                                                    don't know
                                                    the Englsh
                                                    expression)

                                                    Then there
                                                    is the
                                                    casing
                                                    (which -at
                                                    simple
                                                    request of
                                                    Wim ;-) - I
                                                    will not cover)

                                                    During the
                                                    discussion
                                                    with
                                                    Eclipse
                                                    legal it
                                                    was
                                                    mentioned
                                                    that the
                                                    name might
                                                    not be
                                                    confirm
                                                    trademark
                                                    ruling.
                                                    Basically
                                                    legal
                                                    advises to
                                                    make our
                                                    own name
                                                    product name.

                                                    Legally
                                                    Eclipse
                                                    allows
                                                    "eclipse
                                                    edition"
                                                    and Arduino
                                                    does not
                                                    really
                                                    specify
                                                    what is
                                                    allowed for
                                                    software.
                                                    But for
                                                    boards "for
                                                    Arduino" is
                                                    allowed but
                                                    "XXX
                                                    Arduino" is
                                                    not.

                                                    IMHO
                                                    "Eclipse
                                                    for C++" is
                                                    actually
                                                    CDT which
                                                    stands for
                                                    "C++
                                                    development
                                                    tools" like
                                                    JDT stands
                                                    for "Java
                                                    development
                                                    tools". In
                                                    that trend
                                                    we could
                                                    call it ADT
                                                    "Arduino
                                                    Development
                                                    tools" or
                                                    MDT (MCU)
                                                    or IDT (iot).

                                                    Personally
                                                    I do not
                                                    really like
                                                    this 3
                                                    letter
                                                    abbreviation
                                                    words. But
                                                    I'm
                                                    democratic
                                                    guy ....

                                                    One of the
                                                    reasons I
                                                    like
                                                    "Arduino
                                                    IDE eclipse
                                                    edition"
                                                    (but I am
                                                    not crazy
                                                    about it)
                                                    is that we
                                                    could make
                                                    "IDE" and
                                                    "edition"
                                                    really
                                                    small (far
                                                    smaller
                                                    that you
                                                    have made
                                                    them on the
                                                    splash) so
                                                    it still
                                                    looks like
                                                    "Arduino
                                                    eclipse" as
                                                    on the
                                                    current
                                                    splash. So
                                                    that would
                                                    make the
                                                    official
                                                    name
                                                    "Arduino
                                                    IDE eclipse
                                                    edition",
                                                    "Arduino
                                                    Eclipse" in
                                                    short.

                                                    I think
                                                    these are
                                                    the
                                                    headline of
                                                    the current
                                                    name discussion

                                                    Best regards

                                                    Jantje


                                                    On 14-05-16
                                                    19:22,
                                                    Marcelo
                                                    Limori wrote:
                                                    Pardon the
                                                    interruption,
                                                    but
                                                    wouldn't
                                                    be more
                                                    logical
                                                    Eclipse
                                                    Arduino
                                                    Edition?
                                                    You don't
                                                    have C++
                                                    Eclipse
                                                    Edition,
                                                    you have
                                                    Eclipse
                                                    for C++.

                                                    2016-05-14
                                                    6:08
                                                    GMT-03:00
                                                    Wim
                                                    Jongman
                                                    <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx
                                                    
<mailto:wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx>>:

                                                        LMAO(BW)

                                                        On
                                                        Sat,
                                                        May
                                                        14,
                                                        2016
                                                        at
                                                        12:20
                                                        AM,
                                                        Jan
                                                        Baeyens
                                                        <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                                        <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>
                                                        wrote:

                                                            ROFL

                                                            Yes
                                                            sir























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