[eclipse-arduino-dev] Re: arduino eclipse plugin

  • From: Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: eclipse-arduino-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 13:01:25 +0200

yamIDE (yet another mcu IDE)

For those interested. With pain in the hart, "Evil creature" is no longer.


Op 18/05/2016 om 23:36 schreef Wim Jongman:

Totally different industry, should not be  a problem.

Cheers,

Wim

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    I like Eclino as well.

    unfortunately google does return quite some hits on it.


    Op 18/05/2016 om 20:44 schreef Roberto Lo Giacco:
    :-) No
    Arduclipse OR Eclino

    On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Wim Jongman
    <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        *ArduinoEclipse*
        *EclipseArduino
        *


        Arduclipseclino?





        On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Roberto Lo Giacco
        <rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

            *ArduinoEclipse*
            *EclipseArduino
            *

            On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Marcelo Limori
            <x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:x4j7h32m@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                And you didn't see the list I came up with. :D

                2016-05-18 14:38 GMT-03:00 Jan Baeyens
                <jan@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>:

                    rofl

                    Sounds like most names I read are crap ;-)


                    Op 18/05/2016 om 19:11 schreef Marcelo Limori:
                    Maybe you could ask on the Arduino forums. Or
                    throw a small contest perhaps. That way you get
                    ideas and promote the thing at the same time.

                    2016-05-18 12:21 GMT-03:00 Jan Baeyens
                    <jan@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>:

                        brilIDE (briljant ide)

                        Op 18/05/2016 om 13:15 schreef Wim Jongman:


                        Solide - Soldering, IDE and quality

                        On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Roberto
                        Lo Giacco <rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx
                        <mailto:rlogiacco@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                            Keep throwing names lads, something
                            will come...

                              * Euclide (*E*clipse for *M*icro
                                *C*ontro*L*ler *IDE*, famous greek
                                mathematician)
                              * NitrIDE (Nitro seemed a cool name,
                                banging....)
                              * EpoxIDE (also epoxy glue has
                                somewhat to do with makers
                                movement.... let's say we glue
                                together micro controllers
                                developement?)
                              * Identiality (the IDE for people???
                                Don't know, seemed cool when it
                                came to my mind)
                              * SilicIDE (silicon devices IDE?)
                              * BlueIDE (blue is the common colour
                                between eclipse and arduino
                                palettes.....?!? I know, it's
                                getting tough even to explain....)
                              * Idetached
                                (..........!?!.............. don't
                                know)
                              * Idexterity (even sillier... I know,
                                I know)


                            Keep them flowing....

                            On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Jan
                            Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                            <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                                I really do not know what to go for
                                as a name.

                                it is one of these (not so rare)
                                things I'm not good at. I'd really
                                would like a disicion as 7 juli is
                                comming closer and closer.
                                But I don't know.

                                What I think: It is a good idea to
                                drop the name Arduino (think about
                                Arduino and Genuino)
                                A proper name (not a descriptive
                                text) is the way to go.

                                My brainstorm gets to

                                futide (resistance is futile and
                                then ide)

                                wromjai (mix of ja wi ro ma )
                                SeePeePeeMCUIDE (cpp mcu ide)
                                trueWholeIDE (from through hole ide)

                                CUICIDE (in use :-( )
                                picolide (seem to be some chemical)
                                picoide (pico seems to be a
                                programming language so picoide exists)
                                jawiro (jan wim roberto :-( already
                                in use)


                                Op 15/05/2016 om 17:27 schreef
                                Roberto Lo Giacco:
                                Little reminder about Eclipse name
                                usage rules
                                
https://eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php#ProperEclipse

                                Actually I believe the correct
                                naming, if we wish to go for the
                                /edition/ thing would be Arduino
                                IDE, Eclipse Edition (note the
                                comma) which makes us
                                infringe/collide with the Arduino
                                IDE...

                                Let's brainstorm this, shall we?

                                We are here talking about a
                                microcontroller development
                                environment, based on eclipse
                                which includes parts of the
                                Arduino software platform, but
                                goes further than just Arduino micros.

                                  * µIDE (with µ being the greek
                                    letter for micro... hard to
                                    represent in non UTF8
                                    contexts, it would become uIDE)
                                  * microDEV (is this somewhat
                                    pretentious?)
                                  * AISA (Ambiente Integrato di
                                    Sviluppo per Arduino, italian
                                    for Arduino IDE)
                                  * Beyond IDE (meaning beyond
                                    Arduino and Eclipse)
                                  * Avatar (I actually don't know why)
                                  * Pathfinder (well, they use
                                    Mars, this was the name of the
                                    most known probe landing on
                                    mars.... probably better used
                                    as codename for one of our
                                    releases)
                                  * Aride (ARduino IDE, in Italian
                                    it means /arid/, plural and
                                    feminine)

                                I know, many of the above are
                                pretty shit, but if we go for
                                brainstorming we should not be
                                ashamed of the shittiest ideas
                                ever, right? :-)

                                Roberto



                                On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:51 PM,
                                Jan Baeyens <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

                                    Marcelo

                                    Please don't pardon :-)

                                    There has been quite some
                                    discussion about the name yet.
                                    Here is some history for you.

                                    Historically it has been named
                                    "Arduino Eclipse Plugin" as it
                                    used to be only a plugin and
                                    because nobody bothered as we
                                    never realized it would ever
                                    be as big as it is today.

                                    Then Wim added the product.
                                    Which makes the name "Arduino
                                    Eclipse Plugin" "no longer to
                                    covers the cargo" (sorry don't
                                    know the Englsh expression)

                                    Then there is the casing
                                    (which -at simple request of
                                    Wim ;-) - I will not cover)

                                    During the discussion with
                                    Eclipse legal it was mentioned
                                    that the name might not be
                                    confirm trademark ruling.
                                    Basically legal advises to
                                    make our own name product name.

                                    Legally Eclipse allows
                                    "eclipse edition" and Arduino
                                    does not really specify what
                                    is allowed for software. But
                                    for boards "for Arduino" is
                                    allowed but "XXX Arduino" is not.

                                    IMHO "Eclipse for C++" is
                                    actually CDT which stands for
                                    "C++ development tools" like
                                    JDT stands for "Java
                                    development tools". In that
                                    trend we could call it ADT
                                    "Arduino Development tools" or
                                    MDT (MCU) or IDT (iot).

                                    Personally I do not really
                                    like this 3 letter
                                    abbreviation words. But I'm
                                    democratic guy ....

                                    One of the reasons I like
                                    "Arduino IDE eclipse edition"
                                    (but I am not crazy about it)
                                    is that we could make "IDE"
                                    and "edition" really small
                                    (far smaller that you have
                                    made them on the splash) so it
                                    still looks like "Arduino
                                    eclipse" as on the current
                                    splash. So that would make the
                                    official name "Arduino IDE
                                    eclipse edition", "Arduino
                                    Eclipse" in short.

                                    I think these are the headline
                                    of the current name discussion

                                    Best regards

                                    Jantje


                                    On 14-05-16 19:22, Marcelo
                                    Limori wrote:
                                    Pardon the interruption, but
                                    wouldn't be more logical
                                    Eclipse Arduino Edition? You
                                    don't have C++ Eclipse
                                    Edition, you have Eclipse for
                                    C++.

                                    2016-05-14 6:08 GMT-03:00 Wim
                                    Jongman
                                    <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx
                                    <mailto:wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx>>:

                                        LMAO(BW)

                                        On Sat, May 14, 2016 at
                                        12:20 AM, Jan Baeyens
                                        <jan@xxxxxxxxxx
                                        <mailto:jan@xxxxxxxxxx>>
                                        wrote:

                                            ROFL

                                            Yes sir

















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