[duxuser] Re: setting page number

  • From: Lloyd Rasmussen <lras@xxxxxxx>
  • To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:27:19 -0500

In 10.4, if I want to put multiple codes into a search string, either for find or for replace, I must insert them in reverse order. I think this is what happens when you pick codes using F5. You would think that you might want to select [l] and then [p] but you find that your [p] gets inserted in front of the [l]. I hope this is already fixed; sorry I haven't reported it before.

Yesterday I had an Excel spreadsheet nine columns wide to transcribe. I don't own Excel. I let WordPerfect 11 import it as text, then saved in .wpd format. I ended up with a tab-delimited file. Bringing this into DBT resulted in tabs of the form [tas17L], all sorts of values for all sorts of columns, including the ones which wrapped themselves onto a new line in the WordPerfect display.

I use a Windows ASCII editor called Ultraedit sometimes. I should have saved a .txt file, then replaced all tabs with semicolon space. Instead, I saved from DBT to "Duxbury coded text", then used Ultraedit's regular expression search and replace to replace $tas?L with $; and then replace $; with ; . I know there are many more elegant ways to transcribe braille, including saving the spreadsheet as HTML, then having DBT treat it as NISO XML so that the table will be parsed into paragraph style, maybe. But I'm glad that Duxbury coded text still exists so that you can use old-fashioned ASCII tools on the output.

At 09:02 AM 3/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Hi George:

When you think about it though George, logic should play a certain
part in how codes are entered.

This is true, especially if you try to search for a string of commands
but, you entered the sequence of commands in a different order at the
various points in a document.

The problem is even more compounded if you find a mistake in one or
two of the commands in a sequence and you want to correct them with a
Search and Replace function.

Of course, there is the ultimate problem that if you do not type the
commands in the correct order, DBT won't perform the desired action
and therefore will not produce the desired result in the output file.

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 07:01:16 -0000, you wrote:

Dave


>Hi Dave, > >You are quite right about the order of codes being important. Pity there >were not better guidelines. > >With the explanations I'm currently writing for the Help files, I am >testing with examples. In the case quoted, it did work in the order I >gave, even it that was not ideal order. > >What I find more important is actual placement in the text, usually >whether it is before or after a page break. > >George. > >-----Original Message----- >From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >On Behalf Of Dave Durber >Sent: 07 March 2004 04:43 >To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [duxuser] Re: setting page number > >Hello George: > >Your descriptions of the three commands were excellent. I think that >the problems lie in the order in which they are used. > >When I am typing a file from scratch into DBT's print text editor, which >is where I prepare all my files before transcribing them into the output >braille file, I always type them as follows: > >1. I always type the [svpnpn:n:n] command with any of its various >parameters as the first command in any file. > >2. The second command that I always type is either the [pnta] code to >specify arabic page numbering or the [pntr] code to specify roman page >numbering. > >3. The last command that I type is the [pvn] code to set the page >number at which I want the page numbering to start and continue. > >4. When I import a file, for example, from word or another source, into >DBT's print editor, I first switch on Reveal Codes by pressing <ALT+F3>. >I then press the <UP ARROW> once or twice to make sure that I am on the >line where the initial codes of the file are. I then press the <HOME> >key to place the application cursor at the beginning of the first code >in the file. At that point I type the codes in the order set out in >steps 1, 2, 3. > >These commands superceed the settings that you set in the Document Menu, >Page numbering... > >As I have said before, "it is not the use of commands (particularly >format commands) that cause the problem, it is the order in which you >use them". > >I hope that the above information will not only be of help to you but >will solve your page numbering problems. > >Sincerely: > >Dave Durber > >On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:14:06 -0000, you wrote: > >>Hi Ardell, >> >>Please e-mail your .dxp document as an attachment to me at >>george@xxxxxxxxxx and I will take a look and see where you are going >>wrong. >> >>I have just written up this specific topic for the 10.5 Help files, so >>as well as hopefully finding out what's wrong, I may be able to add to >>Help to avoid similar mistakes. >> >>Many thanks, >> >>George Bell. >> >>________________________________ >> >>From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>On Behalf Of Laroy Nolte >>Sent: 07 March 2004 01:27 >>To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: [duxuser] Re: setting page number >> >> >>To Tom Poulk and George Bell: >> Your directions were very clear and I tried both (not at the same >>time). Alas, the page number 1 is still elusive. Ardell Nolte > >

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