I have no problem with Dennis as a sun god. It certainly does fit with him always being awake. I have no problem with her getting ambition, although I was kind of hoping for it for Magnus. I see it as being one of the driving forces of his life, although I suppose you could say that of a lot of characters. But I thought you wished to place Mileena with Ancalagon. I still see her as necromancy and death, with Amrikol ruling over them once they pass through her hands. I like the idea of Ambrosia being against slavers. But Mileena can't be the god of independence and oppose Ambrosia in that regard, can she? jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > I see what you mean about Dennis and > Zolkiir - I keep seeing Zolkiir as a > god of magic or something, and Dennis > as oghma. Instead of knowledge, how > about we make him a sun god? If we > stick with the "constantly awake" idea, > and associate him more with > civilization and culture, then > knowledge is easier to separate. > > As for Mileena, let's look at it a > different way. Since Ancalagon is more > suited to necromancy anyway, and > Mileena isn't necessarily a death > goddess, can we focus on her unique > relationship between several gods? > She's Magnus's daughter, Ambrosia's > daughter, and Ancalagon's foster > daughter. That's > ambition/independence/necromancy. I > personally believe she'd make a really > cool goddess, but any ideas? > > One suggestion is to expand on an idea > for Ambrosia that i didn't mention. I > think it would be cool if she > originated a prestige class of female > slaver hunters. Maybe Mileena could > oppose her somehow? > > > > > I agree that the characters > involved get first crack at > everything. Anyone > > we would bring in gets the crumbs. > Once again, it only makes sense. We > should > > only be bringing other characters in > once we figure out the people that went > on > > the mission, and we see if we have > holes. I think we should nail down who > wants > > to be a god from the main group, then > nail down their portfolios. From there, > > we can see if we need others. > > And yes, we will have multiple > characters that want the same > portfolio, but > > I think we can find ones that fit for > all of the ones that went along, at > least. > > > > I think Dennis should be a major > power, just because he had the tooth. > But > > I love your description of him! It's > great! However, Zolkiir would like the > > knowledge portfolio. Any chance of > that? > > Shawn Barrick and I had spoken of > Ancalagon before, and he's not sure he > > would want to be the God of Death. > He believes Ancalagon is more > interested in > > playing and experimenting with people > than he is killing them. Something to > > think about. I would actually love > to see the Death Portfolio go to someone > > that doesn't want it. What if > someone decides, for example, that > Magnus should > > be the God of Death, because he > killed so many people? (Please, please > don't do > > this.) That's going to affect the > deity he becomes. Could be interesting. > > Mileena will be the hardest to > do, since she doesn't have a lot of > history > > with the group. I don't know about > temptation. It doesn't quite seem to > fit. > > Hmmm. She is a toughie. > > I like Ambrosia, but I would > rather not bring any deities from other > systems > > over if we can help it. It's natural > Ambrosia might want to allow Sharess, > but > > I would prefer we didn't. I think > foreign gods trying to muscle their way > in > > should happen, but should be the > focus of plots in the future. > > Your description of Ilusdris > gives me more hope for him as a > demipower. You > > may be able to sway me on this one. > > Zolkiir does NOT want to be god > of magic. I said a lot about him in my > > e-mail yesterday. Let me say that > Zolkiir is not as interested in magic. > It's > > a means to an end to him at this > time. Remember, he has traveled the > planes and > > flown in an X-Wing. Knowledge in > general is more important to him, as are > > inventions and technology. > > I wouldn't set Talosaard's > portfolio up as you did, because it > doesn't fit a > > CG person. I would go along the > lines of protection. > > > > > > > > Jim and Karen wrote: > > > > > Ok, > > > > > > Here are my thoughts on at least my > own characters, and perhaps some NPCs. > > > We're quickly going to run into > plenty of situations where more than one > > > player has legitimately good ideas > that don't work well together, though - > I > > > think voting will ultimately help a > great deal. Maybe we should take the > > > "low hanging fruit" - stuff like > Dennis, or maybe characters like Faceus > and > > > Nelik - and agree on what their > domains will be early on. This will > let us > > > haggle over the ones that remain. > > > > > > For example, Ancalagon would make a > great death god - but there may be good > > > reasons for another character to > take the same role. My only > recommendation > > > is that we favor characters who > were involved in one way or another > with the > > > quest before going to characters > who weren't - this may mean that > uninvolved > > > characters are more likely to be > demipowers than others. Give this a > quick > > > read - am I on track? > > > > > > P.S.: I want to apologize if my > emails came across as harsh or "poo- > pooing" > > > other people's ideas. I was > working like crazy, and trying to > participate > > > in this neat conversation - I > reread my emails, and they did seem > more blunt > > > than I realized. Sorry about that! > > > > > > Dennis: NG, intermediate power > (maybe greater, but not necessarily): > god of > > > knowledge, history, literature, the > arts, and culture. Patron of bards. I > > > see him having more power than he > ever admits or displays - for one > thing, I > > > think it would be neat if he can > never sleep (for if he does, the Tooth > of > > > Dendar will be unprotected, leaving > it vulnerable to evil). He would look > > > young and charismatic, but he would > forever have very tired and somewhat > > > troubled eyes. > > > > > > Escrima: N, goddess of winter, > loneliness, and secrets. Patron of > loners > > > and bounty hunters. > > > > > > Ancalagon: NE, greater power(?). > god of death and the underdark. Ruler > of > > > the world below (in a benign way - > more like Hel than Loki. Amrikol would > > > represent wanton, malicious evil). > > > > > > Mileena: CN, lesser power. > Goddess of necromancy, (what she wanted > all > > > along), temptation, and deception. > (sort of a mess. ideas here?) > > > > > > Ambrosia: CG, (intermediate? > lesser?) power. Goddess of freedom, > > > independence, romance, passion, and > creativity. Patroness of festhalls. > > > Hopes that Sharess will be > permitted to function as a demipower of > pleasure > > > and lust (under her). This may > sound weird - you'd think she'd want > this > > > for herself - but she'd campaign > for Shelensia to function as her > superior - > > > the goddess of leadership, > fairness, love, and beauty. On one > condition, > > > though - she'd have to expand her > interest (and persona) beyond the drow > to > > > all races. Love has no color. > > > > > > Amrikol: God of destruction, > tyranny, and, conquest. You know, bad > stuff > > > that hurts people. > > > > > > Talon: God of murder, assassins, > poison (of course - what did you think?) > > > > > > Iludriss: Demipower of madness, > despair, and the fog of war (maybe, > maybe > > > not - he might just be a divine > agent). I figure if the orc gods can > exist, > > > so can this wacko. > > > > > > Celane: N. Lesser(?) Power of > Divination Magic, Portals, Guards, and > Wards > > > (although Zolkiir should have first > dibs on arcane magic type stuff. By > > > the way, now that I think about it, > what about Zolkiir as a god of magic?). > > > > > > Nibrodius: CN. God of natural > disasters - fires, floods, etc. God of > > > misfortune. > > > > > > Marcus Drake: NE. God of > cowardice, betrayal, blind loyalty. > > > > > > The Forester: Not a god; an > immortal servant and spokesperson for > Amrikol. > > > > > > Talosaard: CG. Lesser power of > duty, loyalty, sacrifice, and humility. > > > Patron of bodyguards. *** Major > concern: does CG really fit this > portfolio? > > > > > >