Cool it, people! Hardy is right. Safety comes first. Period. And we are not just talking about people safety. The animals we drive have a right to expect us to be humane in the way we treat them. At the same time, I take issue with the list member who wrote that she/he would never drive with halters when training. There are horses that must be worked ina round pen before training. There are horses that would be ruined if they were worked in a round pen. You must all remeber that we do not train horses. They learn to accept what strange things we ask them to do. We do not train them. If anything they train us. -- noel jones\co-moderator _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````