<I must ask as I feel I'm missing something here. Why do I never see mentioned the use of a 4 wheel Marathon vehicle for Tandem? I own a Puddle Jumper for my Pair that will convert from a pole to shafts. Could this not be used?> We used a 4-wheel vehicle for our second Tandem. My husband the driver, dislikes the motion of a cart. Hates the bobbing action cart passengers get with only one axle. We have had a number of carts, ridden in quite a few others, don't care for the motion. He built our 4 wheeler himself. It worked out very well, gave him a good ride, easy on the Wheeler during CDEs. I like the vehicle as a single horse carriage too. We have used it to train a couple young horses after the first few hitches to a cart. There is no reason you can't do Tandem with a 4 wheel. Tradition has always put Tandem to a 2 wheeler. Probably because it is/was enough excitement just doing Tandem, less likely to turn over in 2 wheel vehicles. Like starting a colt, 2 wheels follow him much better, no jack-knifing possible. 4 wheels do give you an extra turning point, so you now have two bending areas, in the Tandem turnout. Easier to get in trouble with turnout folding wrongly, if there is a problem. In a Pleasure show, you would probably be graded down, using an untraditional vehicle to Tandem. CDE, nobody cares if it is a safe vehicle. Just for fun? Use whatever you like. Again, I would like to suggest Tandem drivers consider the Leader bars as a connection for the front horse. Bars allow you to shorten Leader traces, no chance of them dragging on the ground. Also with chest of Wheeler as pivot point, Leader can't pull him around as the can with traces hooked to keys. They are easy to make, you can make your own. Newer designs, ideas, have improved usefulness. They DO NOT have to bash the Wheeler face as stories from the past indicate. Narrower width, connections between both bars, can remove double swinging movement. It is a bit more to set up the wheeler but well worth the time in advantages you gain with the Leader bars. Very nice writing Dave, great words of wisdom. Kathy Robertson __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````