Like Jerry, I have used a 4 wheeler with my tandem, but only in the marathon phase of a CDE. Two wheelers are the traditional tandem vehicle and in pleasure driving shows, where the judging is rigorous and knowledgeable, I believe one would get marked down for using a 4 wheeler, except perhaps, a 4 wheeled Dog Cart. Since tandem is pretty useless from a practical standpoint, tradition is very important in the show ring. If you look at the home page of the list, you will note the cover photos of our feeble attempt at a random. We used Carolyn Harris' Bell Crown 4 wheeler so we could have a more stable platform as we tried to sort things out. I had the cart I use for tandem there at the event, but we felt safety was more important than tradition. Jerry, I strongly second your advice regarding the fast groom! <LOL> When one is driving a tandem, especially of ponies, things can happen so fast you would not believe it. My grooms have saved my bacon more than once! Jay E Hubert, Confirmed Tandemaniac Coffing Oaks Welsh Ponies Galt, CA Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. And I STILL drive too fast to worry about cholesterol! _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````