[ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?

  • From: "Bobby Lusk" <blusk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:36:39 -0500

Okay!  I turned the input gain down (maybe too much now.  I got back into Sonar 
and turned the speakers on, and thankfully, this time there was no feedback.  
However, the microphone was on.  The other problem is that I can't get my 
project to play.  In fact, this time when I tried to get my project to play, 
jaws said, "Drop out drop out."  Again, as I mentioned in my first e-mail 
today, I was not able to read the status bar to try to figure out what was 
going on.  Again, I appologize for my frustration earlier; it's nobody's fault; 
it's just that since I've had the Sonar and Caketalking programs I've had more 
problems and setbacks than accomplishments, and knowing that some one asked a 
question I was not sure how to answer just added to the frustration.  Anyway, 
thanks, you guies for trying to help.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Christer 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 6:07 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


  OK!  

  The gain pots are, as you look at the FW-1884, with the faders nearest you, 
right at the top of the unit.  

  There are 8 of them, so turn all of them anti-clockwise, as far as they will 
go!  

  So, wot do you have plugged in to the FW?  

  Obviously, a microphone, anything else?  

  For now, unplug the mike, and see if the feedback continues...  

  I'm not aware of the other issues you're experiencing, so could you tell me 
wot they are exactly?  


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bobby Lusk 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:32 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


    Yes to both questions (though it's been a while since I read that document. 
 Guess I'd better read it again.  This is why I don't like e-mailing to this 
list much because it seems like I get more questions than answers.  I mean I've 
been trying all day long to figure out why I can't get my project to play as 
well as the cause of the feedback, and everybody seems to be stuck on the 
feedback issue.  I'm not denying how important that is; it's important, but so 
is the other problem.  And as I mentioned earlier both problems occured at the 
same time.  Besides, is it normal for the microphone to be on when you first 
load sonar (especially when no tracks are armed?)  Also, I've noticed that even 
when I'm not in Sonar if the speakers are on, the feedback is there.  Whatever 
I did, I sure did  a good job of it unfortunately.  I just wish there was an 
easy solution for fixing both problems.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Phil Muir 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:08 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


      Have you tried turning the gain down for the channel on the FW-1884.  
Also, have you read the excellent document which is packed full of information 
on how to use the FW-1884 on my website that Sean Cummins and Herman Ferman 
helpped me put together?

      Here's the URL for it:

      http://www.philmuir.com/fw1884.html

      Regards, Phil Muir
       
      P J Muir Productions,
      Music And Audio Production
      Telephone: US (615) 713-2021  
      UK+44-1747-821-794
      Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
      E-mail:
      info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
      URL:
      www.philmuir.com/ 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Bobby Lusk 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:57 PM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


        Okay.  I turned the mic another direction, got back into Sonar, turned 
the speakers on, and guess what!  Still getting the feedback, and I'm still 
looking for a solution to not being able to play my rpojects.  Besides that, 
the feedback problem didn't occur until the other problem occured so I'm 
thinking the two problems are one.  Mike mentioned in an earlier e-mail that 
this might be a Sonar bug.  Well, I think he's right cause this is sure bugging 
me.  ha ha!  Trying to keep a positive attitude about this.
                            God bless you.
                            Bobby Lusk.
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Dave Carlson 
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:22 PM
          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


          Yes. point your microphone the other direction, or disconnect it. If 
you don't understand that feedback is caused by the output going direct back 
into the input and then coming out of the output and going back in the input 
and then out the output and then back in the input and then out the out and in 
the in and out and in and out and in... etc. etc. etc. -- then you're violating 
a very basic concept of audio. You're generating feedback.

          Dave

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Bobby Lusk 
            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:11 PM
            Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


            Okay!  I get that, but I still don't have an answer for why all of 
a sudden I can't get anything to play, and there's feedback when I turn on the 
spekars.  Up until now, I haven't had that problem.  Until the last few days 
I've been able to load projects, play, and record without the feedback.  Now, 
this is a new thing that has happened, and it's really got me confused.  Also, 
should I try to turn the mic another direction?  Would that solve the feedback 
problem?  Like I said, this is a new problem that has just occured very 
recently.  
                                God bless you, Dave.
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Dave Carlson 
              To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:23 PM
              Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


              That's your problem. It's called feedback.

              Dave

                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Bobby Lusk 
                To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:56 AM
                Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


                I wish I had read all my e-mails before replying to the last 
one; that way I could have answered both questions at once, but yes; the 
microphone is facing the speaker.
                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: Dave Carlson 
                  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                  Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:39 AM
                  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


                  Is it facing the speaker?
                    ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: Bobby Lusk 
                    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                    Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 9:36 AM
                    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


                    The mic is right behind my keyboard and pretty close to my 
left speaker.
                      ----- Original Message ----- 
                      From: Mike Christer 
                      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                      Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:16 AM
                      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


                      You said that the mike is on, right?  

                      Is it close to one of your monitors?
                      Is there any chance that this is just a plain old 
feebback loop?  
                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                        From: Bobby Lusk 
                        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:02 PM
                        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


                        Tried double L, triple a, and even control tripple a, 
but to no avail; the same darned thing, and yes; the feedback is constant.  
Don't know what the heck is going on, but it's really bugging me.  I can't play 
(and certainly can't record,) and it's frustrating.  Thanks for your sugestions 
anyway.  Wish they would have worked.
                                            God bless you, Mike.
                                            Bobby Lusk.
                          ----- Original Message ----- 
                          From: Mike Christer 
                          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                          Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:37 AM
                          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


                          Is the sound you're hearing constant?  

                          If it is, you might have an old Sonar bug rearing its 
head!  

                          This is looping being turned on by default...  

                          Just hit L twice quickly.  

                          If it ain't that, then I can't be sure?  
                          Try hitting A 3 times quickly, this'll disarm all the 
trax...  



                            ----- Original Message ----- 
                            From: Bobby Lusk 
                            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                            Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:24 PM
                            Subject: [ddots-l] Oh Boy! What Have I Done Now?


                            Hi, all.
                                 I have a problem that I'm not sure if I caused 
it or not; When I load a project in Sonar and try to get it to play, it won't.  
Instead, what I get is feedback from my speakers, and the microphone is turned 
on, which is weird because when I first load the project I don't have any 
tracks armed.  Also, when I try to read the status bar, I get nothing.  I don't 
know what's going on, but if anyone can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. 
 Thanks in advance, and God bless you.
                                                Bobby Lusk.

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