[creation] Re: HELL!!
- From: "Creighton, Michael F11" <michael.f11.creighton@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:57:35 -0700
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-----Original Message-----
From: creation-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:creation-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Creighton, Michael
F11
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 4:56 PM
To: creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [creation] Re: HELL!!
Dear Phillip,
Regarding your comment: "... false religions like Catholicism ..."
I would like to have the opportunity to demonstrate that Catholicism is
the one true religion outside of which there no salvation (Jn10:16,
Mt18:17, 1Tim3:15, Mt16:15-18, etc). Catholicism is the only historic
religion. All others are novelties and false Christianity. I have
attached scriptural quotations for some of the Catholic beliefs for your
information and also Bishop George Hay's (Scottish Catholic bishop)
article on the subject of salvation written ~200yrs ago that was
reprinted in Catholic Family News recently.
Thanks for your consideration and openmindedness,
Michael A. Creighton +JMJ+
PS: we can speak off line since I believe the purpose of this list was
for debunking evolution and heliocentricism. You may contact me at
michael.f11.creighton@xxxxxxxxxx
Speaking of hell: =20
http://www.romancatholicism.org/tradition-eens.htm
http://www.romancatholicism.org/fathers-fewness.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: creation-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:creation-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philip Snow
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:55 PM
To: creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [creation] Re: HELL!!
Dear All,
What is going on - am I misunderstanding some here - profound apologies
if I
am!?
*The TWO things that virtually *always* connect unBiblical Christianity,
false
religions like Catholicism, JW's [I was one], Mormons,"Christian
Scientists"
etc, Hippie/New Age/Occult groups [I was in many], interfaith
"dialogues",
evildilutionary/humanist philosophies, gurus [I followed 'em],
trickcyclists/"therapists" [I even paid 'em!], Moonies, Loonies [I went
there,
too] & all -
are *THE REJECTION OF JESUS CHRIST'S DIVINITY,
& *THE REJECTION OF THE ETERNAL "LAKE OF FIRE" [GEHENNA]!!
God is Love - & Eternal Justice. Love without Justice is not love - just
"New
Age" cant.
And only a "plural" Elohim could dialogue "together", & die for all our
sins.
Isaiah 9: Jesus =3D Wonderful Counsellor [Holy Spirit], Jesus =3D Mighty =
God
[El
Gibbor - the same as Almighty God]; Jesus is even Eternal Father [YHVH!]
And
Prince of Peace, Lord of Lords etc - just because we cannot understand
the
profound mystery of the Godhead, is no excuse to ignore what "He" says
about it!
That's why the Jews were so annoyed at Pilates' title on the Cross:
YHVH =3D
Yeshua Hanatsri Vmelech Hayudim =3D
Jesus the Nazarene and King of the Jews!
[Hebrew spelling not my strong point!]
"Before Abraham was, I AM" =3D YHVH! [See also the Greek of Romans 9 v's =
9
& 13 -
for the same word. "If you believe Jesus is LORD" etc - & "anyone who
calls upon
the name of the LORD will be saved" - Kyrios/YHVH. [Ironically, this is
even in
the
J.Witnesses Greek Interlinear - & they taught me well, the
anti-Trinitarian
deception!]
And "HELL" is self imposed, & deserved, for "God so loved the
world/wants no one
to perish" & died "not just for our sins, but the whole world's" [1 John
2 v 2
etc, thus denying hyper-Calvinism] - but eternal "Hell" is due to any
who reject
the greatest sacrifice the world has ever seen. Take away "Hell" & you
have
nothing at all for the unbelievers to worry about! Then even MORE
Darwins,
Dawkins, Mansons, Popes, Archdruids of Cant, Hitlers, Stalins, suicide
cults, &
Steve Chalkes ad nauseum!
No ETERNAL "HELL" - NO ETERNAL LIFE - it's the same word.
The Lord is returning soon, & everyone will be judged on their beliefs -
by
getting rid of the very Biblical teaching of "Hell", Christians are
merely
sending many more millions into it. Woe to the teachers & stumblers, for
theirs
will be the greater punishment!
Philip.
PS Ancient Hindus taught long ages [an earth "4.3 Billion yrs old",
probably
based on the same misreading of nuclear decay], & Greeks etc evolution,
long
before Darwin came along!
And EVOLUTION & REINCARNATION HAVE ALWAYS OPPOSED CREATION
& RESURRECTION [THEN THE JUDGEMENT.] From the Garden.......as Satan
said "you shall not die", he needed to invent reincarnation & endless
"upwards"
evolution to justify his nonsense.
Satan, "Death & Hades", scarlet whore & false prophet, the hordes of Gog
& Magog
currently assembling around the "camp of the saints & holy city", & any
who
oppose Biblical truths, will be in "Gehenna" eternally, & "their smoke
will
ascend
forever".
No more death - but plenty eternal punishment! Nowhere does the Bible
teach
the "annihilation-lism" of the JW's, or the likes of John Stott etc.
Whatever eternal fire might actually mean, it is clearly eternal
punishment -
whatever our "foolish" human wisdom may think of that. Our God is
sovereign,
creates both Light & Dark, & is due back soon with some very "fiery"
words for
the "great cloud" or "flood" of unbelievers - & even many "believers",
who will
be saying "Lord, Lord, didn't we do some great things in your name?"!
Nope......
----- Original Message -----
From: "Percival Tanierla" <percy_tan@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <creation@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 3:11 AM
Subject: [creation] Re: Darwin's faith (or lack of it)
Dear friends,
If the doctrine of hell- eternal torment caused
Darwin to reject God it is high time for pastor-
teachers to teach the word of God correctly so there
will be no another Darwin. It is sad that there are
times when ministers of the word cause monsters of
ATHEISM like Darwin.
PERCIVAL
--- John Matthews
<john.matthews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Although there are many books and articles written
> about Darwin, if one
> looks at the different versions of his Origin of
> Species (so that we are
> dealing with his words), we find that over time he
> ascribed less and less to
> the power of (the Christian) God.
>
> His stumbling block, was that when his brother died
> (unconverted to the
> Christian faith), he was furious with God because
> the standard Christian
> teaching was, that such persons would go to hell. He
> seemed to have ignored
> the invitation to repent. The same thing seemed to
> have happened to
> Mohammad, the 8th century Islamic prophet.
>
> John Matthews (UK)
> Retired reservoir engineer and petroleum geologist.
> Reader in the Chruch of England.
>
>
>
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