Im also not seeing how it can help bad matchups. Picking a different version of the same character or a different character all together between matches would be just like it was now. Counterpicking etc. > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:11:20 +0200 > Subject: Re: USF4 changes! > From: bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > How do you get around the rock/paper/scissors character selection? > Player 1 picks his zoning scorpion while player 2 goes for rush down > version of scorpion, it will still be a bad match up for one of the > guys regardless. > Tools of the characters, match-up exp and lastly the skill level and > execution will be the deciding factor. > To me the understanding of a balance fighting is to make every > character the same... > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hmmm a good fighting game shouldn't be all about bad match up and lack of > > knowledge...it should still be fun and challenging in another level when > > your opponent knows what your character can do. > > > > Yes there are bad match ups and character knowledge in fighting games. but > > it shouldn't be in a state of "i know what you're doing, but i can't > > retaliate at all" > > > > Eg. Tekken. Capos. If my opponent knows how to deal with relax stance and > > such. I'll play in another mode :) There is no "instant" win in tekken. you > > can play bears and still win against top tier character because you the > > player are just better. shouldn't be bringing a plastic ruler to a gun fight > > situation. should be more or less "experienced fighter with a slightly blunt > > knife" vs "an okay-ish fighter with a sharp knife". > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me. > >> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario where you can > >> lose a match based on lack of character knowledge rather than skill. > >> If the game has like 30 characters for an example multiply that by 3 > >> so on average you need to be aware of what all 90 variations are > >> capable of? > >> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and how many moves > >> will change between 3 variations of a character. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > 11.59? XD > >> > > >> > Hopefully the character variation will be some answer to really bad > >> > match > >> > up. Not sure how they'll balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a > >> > total > >> > counter to another characters variation completely. If that's the case, > >> > it'll be more rock paper scissors situation than a fighting game lolz > >> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like 9-1 to 6-4 or what > >> > not. So > >> > there'll still be unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like > >> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva... > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :) > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much as I can > >> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > >> >>> ________________________________ > >> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200 > >> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes! > >> >>> > >> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at 12pm to maximise > >> >>> game > >> >>> time. > >> >>> > >> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier can join us at that > >> >>> time. > >> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse > >> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was like "Can I speak to > >> >>>> the > >> >>>> main owner of the computer" and I was like "he's at work" and she was > >> >>>> like > >> >>>> "k thanx bye" > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir > >> >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> I love those. > >> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> "move to your start bar" > >> >>>>> "don't have one" > >> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using" > >> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows" > >> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer" > >> >>>>> "don't have that either" > >> >>>>> "open your web browser" > >> >>>>> "mkay" > >> >>>>> "install this app" > >> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic package manage?" > >> >>>>> "huh?" > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> good times. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse > >> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady calling from "Windows > >> >>>>>> Technical Department" > >> >>>>>> How about no. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams > >> >>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?" > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those days are over. > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir > >> >>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> LOL > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting games. The update > >> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the supposedly new game like > >> >>>>>>>> Blazblue and > >> >>>>>>>> Persona. > >> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games anymore, because there will > >> >>>>>>>> be > >> >>>>>>>> an Update later. > >> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please? > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now? > >> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now? > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new character coming out > >> >>>>>>>> for P4A > >> >>>>>>>> ...and I was planning to get the new Blazblue (english > >> >>>>>>>> version)... > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes more sense to me, as > >> >>>>>>>> much > >> >>>>>>>> as I dislike it. > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben > >> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new Guilty Gear I can > >> >>>>>>>>> definitely > >> >>>>>>>>> live with :D > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200 > >> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes! > >> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx > >> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age. > >> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap. > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer: > >> >>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmCveY > >> >>>>>>>>> > > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > ========================================================================= > >> >>>>>>>>> > You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community > >> >>>>>>>>> > mailing list. > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> ========================================================================= > >> You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community mailing list. > >> > >> //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc > > > > > ========================================================================= > You are subscribed to the Cape Town Fighting Game Community mailing list. > > //www.freelists.org/list/cpt-fgc