Re: USF4 changes!

  • From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:14:03 +0200

Not necessarily. We don't know all the possibilities yet though.


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Wouldn't the first player who chooses a variation have a disadvantage?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> They'll allow it. If the whole point of this 'character variation' is to
>> assist in nullifying bad matchups, then it will probably be accepted.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Wonder how character variation will work in terms of tournaments though.
>>> I know SBO tournaments is character locked. Eg. Tekken, you choose one
>>> character and stick with it until the end. Be i've seen some tournaments
>>> where you can just change...which is a bit :/ for tekken. Other fighting
>>> games i'm not sure how fair that can be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not sure if they will. I heard from interviews that some normals just
>>>> change completely :/
>>>>
>>>> We'll see then.
>>>>
>>>> But i like how they're finally thinking of balancing the game for
>>>> really bad match up gameplay at least with character variation. What's the
>>>> outcome, we'll have to just see. No more Kabal instant air fireball zoning
>>>> vs characters who have no answers but take chip damage to death.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Yeah, if they're just altering a few moves, that's fine. If they
>>>>> completely changing the character's frames, we're screwed.
>>>>>  *From*: Manase Zote [mailto:bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> *Sent*: Thursday, June 12, 2014 02:43 PM South Africa Standard Time
>>>>> *To*: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> *Subject*: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me.
>>>>> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario where you can
>>>>> lose a match based on lack of character knowledge rather than skill.
>>>>> If the game has like 30 characters for an example multiply that by 3
>>>>> so on average you need to be aware of what all 90 variations are
>>>>> capable of?
>>>>> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and how many moves
>>>>> will change between 3 variations of a character.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > 11.59? XD
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hopefully the character variation will be some answer to really bad
>>>>> match
>>>>> > up. Not sure how they'll balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a
>>>>> total
>>>>> > counter to another characters variation completely. If that's the
>>>>> case,
>>>>> > it'll be more rock paper scissors situation than a fighting game lolz
>>>>> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like 9-1 to 6-4 or what
>>>>> not. So
>>>>> > there'll still be unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like
>>>>> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much as I can
>>>>> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>>>> >>> ________________________________
>>>>> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200
>>>>> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at 12pm to maximise
>>>>> game
>>>>> >>> time.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier can join us at
>>>>> that time.
>>>>> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>>> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was like "Can I speak
>>>>> to the
>>>>> >>>> main owner of the computer" and I was like "he's at work" and she
>>>>> was like
>>>>> >>>> "k thanx bye"
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>> >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I love those.
>>>>> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> "move to your start bar"
>>>>> >>>>> "don't have one"
>>>>> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using"
>>>>> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows"
>>>>> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer"
>>>>> >>>>> "don't have that either"
>>>>> >>>>> "open your web browser"
>>>>> >>>>> "mkay"
>>>>> >>>>> "install this app"
>>>>> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic package manage?"
>>>>> >>>>> "huh?"
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> good times.
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>>> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady calling from
>>>>> "Windows
>>>>> >>>>>> Technical Department"
>>>>> >>>>>> How about no.
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams <
>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?"
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those days are over.
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>> >>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting games.  The
>>>>> update
>>>>> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the supposedly new game like
>>>>> Blazblue and
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Persona.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games anymore, because there
>>>>> will be
>>>>> >>>>>>>> an Update later.
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now?
>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now?
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new character coming
>>>>> out
>>>>> >>>>>>>> for P4A
>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...and I was planning to get the new Blazblue (english
>>>>> version)...
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes more sense to me,
>>>>> as much
>>>>> >>>>>>>> as I dislike it.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben
>>>>> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new Guilty Gear I can
>>>>> definitely
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> live with :D
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap.
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer:
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmCveY
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >
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