Re: USF4 changes!

  • From: Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:54:53 +0200

Hmmm a good fighting game shouldn't be all about bad match up and lack of
knowledge...it should still be fun and challenging in another level when
your opponent knows what your character can do.

Yes there are bad match ups and character knowledge in fighting games. but
it shouldn't be in a state of "i know what you're doing, but i can't
retaliate at all"

Eg. Tekken. Capos. If my opponent knows how to deal with relax stance and
such. I'll play in another mode :) There is no "instant" win in tekken. you
can play bears and still win against top tier character because you the
player are just better. shouldn't be bringing a plastic ruler to a gun
fight situation. should be more or less "experienced fighter with a
slightly blunt knife" vs "an okay-ish fighter with a sharp knife".


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> This method of balancing looks like a throw of dice to me.
> It can go either way, you potentially have a scenario where you can
> lose a match based on lack of character knowledge rather than skill.
> If the game has like 30 characters for an example multiply that by 3
> so on average you need to be aware of what all 90 variations are
> capable of?
> Let's wait and see what the move list looks like and how many moves
> will change between 3 variations of a character.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 11.59? XD
> >
> > Hopefully the character variation will be some answer to really bad match
> > up. Not sure how they'll balance it tho. It'll be weird to just be a
> total
> > counter to another characters variation completely. If that's the case,
> > it'll be more rock paper scissors situation than a fighting game lolz
> > hopefully the variations will make match ups like 9-1 to 6-4 or what
> not. So
> > there'll still be unfavourable match ups but not a complete lose like
> > MK9...eg. Kabal vs Sheeva...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I think 12:00 is a safer option Rich :)
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Is 11:30 fine also?? I wanna get game time as much as I can
> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sender: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:15:48 +0200
> >>> To: <cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> ReplyTo: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
> >>>
> >>> Heya peeps, we'll be starting the Sat sessions at 12pm to maximise game
> >>> time.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone who is keen on starting a little earlier can join us at that
> time.
> >>> If you aren't able to make 12pm, that's fine as well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ashraf Barendse
> >>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think she feeling a bit lazy today. She was like "Can I speak to the
> >>>> main owner of the computer" and I was like "he's at work" and she was
> like
> >>>> "k thanx bye"
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> >>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I love those.
> >>>>> Start talking linux, usually goes well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "move to your start bar"
> >>>>> "don't have one"
> >>>>> "what version of Windows are you using"
> >>>>> "I'm not using Windows"
> >>>>> "Open up Internet Explorer"
> >>>>> "don't have that either"
> >>>>> "open your web browser"
> >>>>> "mkay"
> >>>>> "install this app"
> >>>>> "using my regular tar.z loader or the synaptic package manage?"
> >>>>> "huh?"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> good times.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Ashraf Barendse
> >>>>> <ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> lol, got a call from an Indian sounding lady calling from "Windows
> >>>>>> Technical Department"
> >>>>>> How about no.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Ryan Williams <
> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Can I just buy a complete game please?"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not going to happen in this day and age. Those days are over.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> >>>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> LOL
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don't know which I hate more about fighting games.  The update
> >>>>>>>> approach like Street Fighter, or the supposedly new game like
> Blazblue and
> >>>>>>>> Persona.
> >>>>>>>> It makes me not want to buy the games anymore, because there will
> be
> >>>>>>>> an Update later.
> >>>>>>>> Can I just buy a complete game please?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Persona now?
> >>>>>>>> Do I need to buy another Blazblue now?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm just ranting because I see there's a new character coming out
> >>>>>>>> for P4A
> >>>>>>>> ...and I was planning to get the new Blazblue (english version)...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In all honesty, the Capcom approach makes more sense to me, as
> much
> >>>>>>>> as I dislike it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Wynand-Ben
> >>>>>>>> <paashaasggx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A new dark age starting off with a new Guilty Gear I can
> definitely
> >>>>>>>>> live with :D
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:59:23 +0200
> >>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
> >>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > I'm all for the next FG dark age.
> >>>>>>>>> > Wreal wrap.
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>> > On 12/06/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> > > Mortal Kombat Honest Trailer:
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCiVYKmCveY
> >>>>>>>>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> >
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