[CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 11:42:32 +0200
Maybe because the new superman movie wasn't that great? lolz it seem rushed
somehow :/
Not sure about Ras and batman tho...
Movies have flaws...haven't seen a movie without any flaws before...i mean
look at the dark knight rises...he was banging the bomb everywhere when he
was on the bat flying thingy...wasn't that thing like highly explosive and
brittle? lolz
special effects/action in movies outweighs logic and accuracy...i mean look
at Michael Bay's transformer, everything is filled with highly explosive
gas and gasoline.
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> How did Batman not become an anti-hero? He lets a man die. It doesn’t
> even seem to bother him later. The death of Dent does bother him, but less
> because it happened on his watch and more because of what Dent became.
>
>
>
> Superman has murdered someone. He’s outright broken the guy’s neck in a
> fight. That’s okay though because he feels bad about it. Extreme last
> resort? I dunno about that. Supes from the comics is genius level
> intelligence. He’s got all the knowledge from most of the universe in his
> head. He’s fighting against an equal in terms of strength and abilities, so
> because of that, he has to kill the guy? With all of his (and Zod’s) unreal
> abilities and intellect, the best that they can do is murder.
>
>
>
> The fact that you can view two characters as not being anti-heroes,
> despite the fact that they’re both outright murderers, is an issue. Neither
> of them killed the enemy by accident. Neither of them were in positions of
> immediate and life threatening danger. Maybe you can argue that Supes was,
> but Zod had lost that fight already.
>
>
>
> Maybe you’re right, and they’ll use this as the turning point for Supes
> where he decides that never again will he kill. I just wonder now that they
> took the line in the sand for these characters and shifted it, why bother
> with a line at all?
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 05 December 2013 11:14 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
> Its not like they became anti-heroes tho.
>
>
> Killing was a extreme last resort in supes movie... and it clearly
> bothered him immensely. They didnt mention him being averse to killing in
> the movie tho... they could even use this as the event that pushed in into
> the "I shall not kill" mindset for future movies.
>
>
> Dunno about the Batman stuff, can easily think of situation that he would
> be "forced" to kill but cant remember the movie being that way. Should be
> way easier to get bats into that position than superman imo.
> ------------------------------
>
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:01:52 +0000
>
> That’s fine, maybe the concepts of Superman and Batman are outdated.
>
>
>
> In the comics, the idea of killing the bad guys is something that they
> think about. Batman specifically doesn’t kill anyone. After Bain breaks his
> back, someone else takes over being Batman. After that guy lets a villain
> die, Bruce Wayne freaks out and takes back the mantle of the bat.
>
> Similarly Superman does face retardedly strong enemies, like Zod. The
> whole point of Superman is that he is the absolute in terms of virtue.
> That’s why he leads the Justice League. He’s the only out there that
> doesn’t fall from grace. Sure, having someone that pure is a bit boring for
> a film, but that’s what his character is.
>
>
>
> I find it a bit sad that they’ve taken the two characters out there in the
> DC universe who will never kill for any reason, and have both of them just
> give up and become murderers. Batman doesn’t kill Ra’s al Gul out of self
> defence. He lets the guy die. Superman kills Zod because he can’t think of
> a better idea.
>
> Great.. and that’s the best that the world is supposed to offer?
>
>
>
> Maybe it’s just that there are enough anti-heroes out there and heroes
> with massive flaws. Was it too much to ask for one that doesn’t just give
> up and take the easy route?
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 05 December 2013 10:52 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
> I think its lazier writing thinking up some campy reason why superman
> could get away with not killing.
>
> Against "normal" opponents sure, hes godlike compared to humans so he wont
> need to resort to lethal means... but against some of the other DC
> powerhouses or another Kryptonian? Fuck off... im not a kid anymore.
>
> Just sounds like some old cheesy leftover of what heroes of old could
> accomplish. Beat the baddy, save the girl, everything is always fine.
> Cheezy imo.
> I just dont think that would work anymore in modern entertainment.
> ------------------------------
>
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 08:39:57 +0000
>
> It’s lazy writing. Either that or Zack Snyder just wanted to stamp his own
> feel on it.
>
> Either way, they got rid of one of the defining characteristics of
> Superman. He’s supposed to be more than just a vigilante. He’s not supposed
> to be a killer. There are heroes that walk that line – Wolverine, Cap’n,
> Punisher and alike on the Marvel side. On the DC side, Lobo, Wonder Woman,
> GL. They’ve all killed. Bats and Supes are supposed to be different. No
> excuses.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 05 December 2013 10:34 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
> I still dont see the problem with Supes killing...
>
> Would not have been a paragon of virtue either if he willingly just lets
> people die that he could save
> ------------------------------
>
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 07:11:46 +0000
>
> I’m still pissed off with what DC has done with their films. Although I
> liked the idea of a more serious, less cartoony approach to both Batman and
> Superman, I seriously dislike the fact that they’ve both effectively killed
> enemies in their films – Batman lets Ra’sal Gul die in Batman begins. Supes
> takes out Zod. Great. They’ve both dedicated themselves to being absolute
> paragons of virtue and both first films end with them failing to uphold
> that.
>
> Green Lantern was a joke.
>
>
>
> Anyways... Still have no real idea who they could cast as Wonder Woman.
> Finding an actress who looks the part – someone who could take Batman in a
> fight without breaking a sweat – is a bit of an issue.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ryan Williams [mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>]
>
> *Sent:* 05 December 2013 8:35 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Cc:* Donaldson, Alasdair
> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
> Not Wonder Woman material. There are far better picks.
>
>
>
> Ben Affleck as Batman = fail.
>
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> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/12/04/gal-gadot-cast-as-wonder-woman-in-batman-vs-superman
>
>
>
> Not sure if I agree with all the casting choices here. Then again, I’m
> sure they know what they’re doing.
>
>
>
> *From:* Donaldson, Alasdair
> *Sent:* 05 December 2013 8:08 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
> Thought about getting Path of Exile. Game looks good. Just don’t have the
> time to play it though.
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *lindsey kiviets
> *Sent:* 05 December 2013 7:25 AM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
> morning peeps,
>
> downloaded path of exile off steam last night. game looks good for f2p
> game. system similar to torchlight but more of diablo3 style.
>
> kingdoms rise looks good too. create your own knight, looks like a cross
> between an mmorpg and dmc.
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:55:08 +0200
> Subject: [CPT-FGCse ] Re: Hi
> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> ...more like a constipated rectum, but yeah, a toilet with a broken
> cistern would be similar.
>
> LB just wantsfor BB what I want for MK.
>
> On 4 Dec 2013 17:51, "Stephen Scheidel" <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> LB is like a toilet.
> Because he is full of shit.
>
>
>
> Humor.
>
>
>
> On 4 December 2013 07:19, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> get this game man , otherwise you letting everyone know im the best.
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:53:29 +0200
> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv0Wc6ZNG3c
>
> Original:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbOwNfqgF04
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:58 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> I be there too.
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 14:56:49 +0200
> Subject: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> I'm working, but I'll be there after
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> Provided there is a sesh on Saturday, count me in.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> It’s the run down to the holiday break, so we’ve got a load of work to
> finish before we shut down.
> Also, I spent most of yesterday catching up on random forums and generally
> stuffing around, so trying to make up for that now.
>
> Is there a session this Saturday?
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> *Sent:* 04 December 2013 2:06 PM
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
>
>
> Workin' like crazy here, looks like I'm not the only one.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> What Steam sale?
> It’s gone... I missed it...
>
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
> *Sent:* 03 December 2013 12:15 PM
>
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
>
> Any games worth getting during the Steam Sale?
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